1827:- I have read some of the discussions above. First of all, there exists neither racism nor prejudice against the Turks or what so ever. I believe there is confusion here. If you see the notability criteria for people in the following page, , things will be clearer. It says that “The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person” From the above web sites we can see that he has at least 10 books published. He has published about Galileo Galilei, , since Bertolt Brecht this is the second play ever written on Galileo’s life. Can we call this a trivial publication? There exists no play on William Shakespeare’s life. See this page, , are we going to call this publication trivial and rubbish? Has anybody tried to read the play? Why not? Do you think that high literature is something garbage? Please see the page, , this is the only comprehensive Gandhi play in the world, no one can assert othervise; are we going to say that this Gandhi play is trivial publication? Another criteria says “Published authors who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work.” Büyünün Gözleri (Eyes of Magic) Play, , obtained a National award in Istanbul. Do you think that it is easy to get a national award where hundreds of participants enter the competition? Is it something trivial? Now please see this page, . You will probably say who the hell this Sabahattin Eyuboğlu is. He is a very important Turkish writer, and when I read the artcile I have seen nothing about Shakespeare and I added that info, added Shakespeare link as well. He has translated Macbeth, Timon of Athens, Hamlet, Julius Caesar, most wonderful translations… We have loved Shakespeare through his incredibly beautiful translations. Now, if you look at his article, a very short article, so he means an unimportant writer? We can not get anything from the length of the article. It is not the length but the quality matters. Unfortunately we don’t have much time. We have works to do. There are hundreds of Turkish related articles to be improved. There are also so many misonformation as well. Now see this page, in Magyar language. It is clear that a Magyar guy translated this page. It probably says Murat ildan is a Turkish writer. And there is also Bibliografi. Where is the spam here? Is the play Master William Shakespeare spam? what is the spam here? I see only a very limited info on the writer. Are we going to call this a spam, a garbage? What is your knowledge about literature? Have you ever tried to read the writers one of the plays in English, available in different sites. See the page in Latin language page. Do you call this a spam? It says Murat İldan is a Turkish writer. Galileo text is given there. So is it the play spam, or rubbish? Do you think that it is easy to be a writer in Turkey. Burhan Günel is a famous (and notable) writer in Turkey. His story books are printed in 2000 copies. May be you find it funny? Have you ever heard Burhan Günel? No! check the google now, you will see only 992! he is 60 years old. Now see this Turkish short CV: Ödülleri: Kültür Bakanlığı Çocuk Öyküleri Başarı
1831:Ödülü (1979), Türk Dil Kurumu Ödülü (1981), Mehmet Ali Yalçın Roman Ödülü (1981 ve 1982), Nevzat Üstün Öykü Birinci Başarı Ödülü (1983), Ömer Seyfettin Öykü Ödülü (1994), Yunus Nadi Roman Ödülü (1997), Yunus Nadi Öykü Ödülü (2000). He has at least 6 very important Literary Awards! But according to google he is 992! There are lots of important Turkish writers that even most Turkish people don't know because they are not advertised, because big publishing houses are supporting many trivial, magazinal type books and writers. I am avery disappointed and sad about the above discussions!.. They mentioned above writers dictionary. They are all biased dictionaries. There is another dictionary where 4000 writer names exist. We don't have 4000 writers, I am talking about literature! Turkish Playwrights number is not more than 100! You can check from the playwrights association in ıstanbul by sending them an e-mail. What about living novelists? May be 200, but not more!.. Being famous is something to do with advertisement, somethimg to do with money, not with quality. Not every good writer has money, or dark powers for advertisements... What is the conclusion? The writer in question is notable but not famous in Turkey! Who cares about being famous? are we going to be interested in the works or whether the person in question is famous? Ask 1000 people in the streets of Turkey, They will not know about Sabahattin Eyuboğlu... Some says His Hamlet is even better than the original language, it so poetical... goodnight. Tagorgora.
1838:"Now see this page, in Magyar language . It is clear that a Magyar guy translated this page. It probably says Murat ildan is a Turkish writer" Now my Magyar may be a little rusty, but as someone with a little Latin left over from school I can assure you that while the latin page does, sort of, say Ildan is a Turkish writer, it does it in a way that suspiciously reeks of someone running it through a Latin babelfish, since anyone with a little Latin left would have left the verb 'est', at the end of the sentence & I get the same feeling about the other languages that Ildan (sorry, Ildan's 'biographer') is posting to. I know this is nitpicking, but the whole thing just stinks to high heaven of a concerted, and conceited, attempt to carpet bomb every wiki in existence into submission. First of all I thought this was just simple vanity, more and more I'm starting to think hoax. Surely no-one could be so self-regarding to need about 15 sock-puppets and daily postings on AfD just to prop up their insecurity? Also, accusations of racism are a very cheap shot & need to be nipped in the bud right away.
1779:- Are we deleting this article because it is self promotion or because he's not notable? I mean, if the article was created by an established user, would you want it to be deleted? If an established user re-creates the article two months after the closure of this Afd, would the article get deleted and why? (WP:CSD A7?) What i don't understand is, why would self promotion be a reason to delete an article. Why don't we focus on notability and just neutralize the article? Does notability refer to how famous the person in question is or does it refer to the work he/she has done to deserve an article? I simply don't understand why we keep an article about Prince Harry's girlfriend and delete this one (or recreations in the future)? Not that i support this guy just because he's from Turkey (i got so close to blocking him on tr.wp), but i don't see any reason to relinquish information, just because it's been used for self promotion. --
1110:- As a tr.wp admin and probably the first reader of the WP article on him, I would like to provide you guys some information about this issue. First of all, it is Mehmet Murat İldan himself, who has been writing all these articles. So it's an autobiography. I personally don't see WP:AUTO as a reason to delete an article, as long as the person in question is notable. In that case i think he is, even though i've never heard of him in my life before his Wikiactivity. He is definitely not famous in Turkey, that i can assure you. But as an author of several books, i personally would consider him as notable. He has several awards, books published by Ministry of Culture etc. He clearly speaks very highly of himself and all his contributions are about himself, but my tendency to stay neutral no matter what pushes me to accept this person as notable. The article can be neutralized or stubbed.--
738:, we see author's some works published expilicitly in English. I believe this gives us some opinion that though he is an emerging writer, he has already some notability. I know from a friend living in the USA that author's novel Roses Underneath Paris can be found in certain bookshops in New York. The novel is not in English, it seems to be a great paradox, but it is not, because the book is read by the Turkish community living in the USA. Same applies to London or Münich as well. So I believe we must be fair on judging about the notabilty... We should also bear in mind that, checking his life story, author has lived about 9 years in England and he writes books where the events pass in England. So he is pro-England or England-lover writer as well... even only for this reason, I believe that an article about him deserves to be kept, improved and enriched... 25 january 2007.
1232:
disprove the information given in the article? All you "no" guys just talk. His books are not in
Kurdish language. So what profit he can gain from this? Obviously, this article and the brother articles aim is to provide info, nothing but info about the writer. If you need an information about Turkish playwrights, where an earth are you going to look at? Don't you see that Knowledge (XXG) is a wonderful opportunity to get information? Will the writer go to a publishing House in Portugal and say that "Look, I have an article in wikipedia, publish my works!" It is absolutely funny!!!!!! There is obviously unjustified no-proof attack on the article. I protest this strongly.
1941:? Isn't that enough criteria for notability? Who cares about the writer of the article? even if he wrte it himself... it doesn't say he's the bigest turkish writer - to have POV in it. It says he has X number of books published. So why are we still debating about NOTABILITY? I speak turkish and read the turkish sources. He exists. he has those books published, he is a member of the PEN club. what else do you need for notability? I do say there IS racim against Turkish articles going on in enwiki, and quite frankly I don't really know why. what's your problem with turkish literature? that you can't read it? that's no excuse for deleting something, just because you
705:, which seems to verify the existence of "Roses under Paris" ("Paris'in Altındaki Güller", I believe, although my Turkish is pretty bad) and probably others as well, so he seems to have published something at least. Whether or not this is a vanity press is something I can't comment on, since it requires more language ability than I have. The fact that the article has claimed that an unpublished book is his magnum opus is neither here nor there, since it's a content issue which is curable by editing rather than deletion. In terms of the English titles, I'm not sure what the normal policy is regarding books with foreign language titles, although I'd point to
1817:
list of the Famous
Authors, but it is the list of Turkish Authors. Do you also know that Ministry of Culture is no longer printing theatre plays? Why? because the government does not like theatre!.. Oh, dear friend there are millions of things you don't know about Turkey, about what is going on in Turkey... any way, I will sleep now! But before sleep I will give you one more name, probably you may know him İsmail Cem, former Minister, died few days ago. he has many books, but he is not in the list! . He is not writing literary books, rather political books. But the list above already a mixed list. Good day to you... Yours sincerely... Tagorgora
879:. He seems to be a serious and good writer. What use to delete the article about him which has obviously correct information? I believe that English wikipedia users can and should benefit from the information and literary material given in the article. We must also keep in mind the considerable effort made to create this article. I suggest we respect the effort and the work. So my vote is definitely to keep the article... deleting is an easy way, we should be helpers not the terminators.good day.Jabbar. 27 January 2007, 18.07
805:
I am sure his books will soon be published in
England as well. Knowledge (XXG) is a paradise of information; we must not delete, but we must verify and edit any kind of information if found wrong. We must also know that no one can ever promote himself through wikipedia, but only by the good quality of his or her works. I have read his book Antiquary Arago's Diary (original title Antikacı Arago'nun Günlüğü), I believe he is good quality writer and he knows England very well. So my vote is to keep the article strongly.
1870:. His name is written as Mehmet M. Ildan in the list. Membership number is 704. The association is a liberal sided organisation, some of his members prisioned in the past years. Another info that I know about the writer is that one of his plays, Tanrı'ya Yolculuk, Journey to God banned in Istanbul on the grounds that society is not ready for this play. The play considers the science as the sole Prophet. It is anti-religuous but pro-God play. In his theatre articles, this particular one
1565:
1535:
1505:
1400:
730:, we can see that the author has Master and Doctorate degrees in Economics from the University of Essex. Therefore, in the infobox, it is fair to write "Economist" as one of his occupations along with novelist and playwright... So I am not agree with the user Melanicool to remove the "economist" label. That info was correct. If you also see the page
634:- It's not a matter of Turkey. This guy would be from Costa-Rica, Slovenia or New Zealand it would exactly be the same. It's a huge spamming abuse on over 30 different wikipedias, of a very unfamous writer, totally unknown in Turkey according to the Turks themselves. And the community reacts against that, which is quite sound and normal I believe.
1622:
1650:, which seems (although I can't be totally sure) to allow people to purchase two of his books and what looks to be an anthology of somethingoranother in which he is included - all in the original Turkish, however. There mightn't be an ISBN attached, but the fact that his work is available for purchase seems to say that he is published.
303:
a pass. One of the proponents seems to think that merely publishing a book makes one notable and lists sites that sell his books. That is not the case. In other cases, proponents have described him as an emerging writer. Perhaps he can wait until he has emerged? Right now the massive sock operation leaves a bad aftertaste.
1816:
I have just made a quick look at it. Özen Yula is not in the list, but Ahmet Önel is in the list. Özen Yula is a famous
Playwright in İstanbul... I am saying to you that that list is definitely not correct, not complete, politically biased, since Fethullah Gülen's name is there!... Also it is not the
1766:
I wonder if it is a coincidence that the last two, very indignant, remarks come from unregistered, unsigning editors with very similar IPs: in one case this is the unique contribution to
Knowledge (XXG), in the other there is also a minor editing to the İldan article. I won't comment about the racism
1180:
Because I smell very bad racist lynching operation here! Turkey's most prestigous writers are those of the
Turkish PEN Club members; Orhan Pamuk is also a member... Here is a definite proof that Mehmet Murat İldan is a Turkish writer and a member of the most prestiguous literary club in Turkey. Check
527:
Title: The Beggar’s
Prophecy (Dilencinin Kehaneti) Author (Editor, Trans., etc.): Mehmet Murat İLDAN Genre: Two-act play Edition: First printing Year of Publication : 2001 Dewey Decimal No: 812,42A 'reviewa Number of Pages: 54 + vii Size: 20 cm. Publication No: 2644 Name of Series: Works on Art-Drama
1739:
You will see only 6 books of the author. But he has more than 10 books published. We don't see them in the database, because databases are unfortunatley not updated and there exists several spelling mistakes... Anyway, this is my final comment on this issue. You can delete or keep the article, it is
945:
I shall elaborate a bit myself. First of all, the person which is object of the article we are discussing shares 8 or 9 of the 10 features attributed to the average
Wikipedian. Secondly, countering systemic bias means countering the tendency to consider a major Turkish (or Italian, or Somali, or...)
804:
that his play became finalist. In short, all the information in the article is surely verifiable. About Magnum Opus, I have not seen such a thing; if there was, most probably it was an editing mistake. As user BigHaz said, it's a content issue which is curable easily by editing rather than deletion.
302:
I wanted to give this a chance. Sites like google have limited effectiveness in searching for people who only operate abroad. But its hard to see how the case for notability has been made. I don't know how reliable the NewAbsinthe link is, but if there were more like it, I guess I could give this
1798:
of the
Turkish Ministry of Culture, in which İldan does not appear. It allegedly includes the 2023 "owners of the most important works in Turkish language". So it appears that İldan is, at best, the 2024th most notable Turkish writer, which does not appear very notable among Turkish writers (we are
1703:
I can give you 100 more web sites that one find all the books mentioned in the article. Please also note that 4000 copy for a theatre play in Turkey is realy a very very big printing number. Dilencinin
Kehaneti-Beggar's Prophecy printed in 2001 and sold out compeletly in 2002. Now it is a rare book
1432:
An administrator at the Norwegian (bokmål) Knowledge (XXG) noticed the concerted effort of spreading this biographical article to a great number of Wikipedias, and believing the effort to be self-promotion from an artist who probably doesn't meet Knowledge (XXG)'s requirements for notability in any
1231:
Any person who has published 10 books will be considered notable enough in any country. Check the Kurdish page His books have not been translated into Kurdish, but the information on the writer exists in Kurdish. What is the purpose of the Knowledge (XXG), if not to provide information. Can anyone
501:
A 'review', as you define it, is essentially nothing but a de facto admission of a work's existence. A review of 'Animal Farm' saying: "I can confirm this book is real; is made primarily of paper; was written by a man originally called Eric and is mostly about pigs" would not have gained Orwell an
1794:
Things are actually getting muddled by several non-pertinent factors: the suspect of self-promotion, the sudden appearance of the articles in several wikipedias, the comments by possible sockpuppets, the accusations of racism... All of which heats the debate and distracts from the actual issues of
1734:
You can see that writer's birthday info is wrong. It should be 1965. But in the government record it is written as 1956. Please also check the spelling Ormanýnýn hayaletleri (Ghost's of Forest) The correct spelling should be Ormanın Hayaletleri. Thus, when you search the books in the google or in
1450:
unless there's definite proof that these books are indeed published or something along those lines. If this is indeed a case of vanispam, the author must be strongly cautioned to not touch the article too much further, but if the article subject's merits are okay, then there's really no reason to
1280:
What's with all the deletes here? Yes, the page may be a so called "vanity" page now. It may right now be self promotion. But if George W Bush wrote his own Wiki-page, would you guys still delete it? He is notable in Turkey. Just because you have not heard of him here does not mean that he is not
1966:, about the biography elements, about the award winning play (did find sources about it) and about the books, found his bio and bibliography at the website of the publisher of three of his books, Truva Yayinlari. Link also added at the site. Hope this is enough proof of notabilty for everyone. --
233:
for all the plays and books articles that he also created here. None of them has been published with more than 3 000 copies, and some are still to be published... No sources except himself or the editor. He might be close from matching the criteria, but his creation of articles on himself on 30
746:
Vote note signed but done by IP 85.106.155.214. A IP in Ankara, Turkey, the same type of IP that created this article on 31 different WP on a timespan of 1 month and a half. And sometime uses the following usernames: Ademusset or Marivaux on Fr, Cicero on WP in Latin, Carlogoldoni in Italian,
747:
Lopedevaga in Spanish, and Muratildan in Turkish. Vanity of one single person that has never sold more than 3 000 copies of one of his books. de:, pl:, sv:, it:, id: and others have used speedy deletion, fr:, es: are using articles for deletion procedure shifting towards deletion.
321:, about which I can also find nothing online. Obviously if a book is available online, it's been published. That said, as I understand the nomination now I see that the mere existence of the books wasn't really in question - and neither does it automatically confer notability.
1865:
I have just added World Short Story Day article in the Knowledge (XXG) which was proposed by the Turkish Authors Association (TAA) in Ankara. About the article on Mehmet Murat İldan, I would like to give a brief info on him which is that the author is a member of TAA,
764:
the article, I am totally surprised to see that some users doubt whether this writer has published something at all! I am half Turkish, because my mother is Turkish. With a quick search on google, I can give some proof pages that he has published at least 10 books.
1740:
your decision. I hope that people from different countries will create different articles on the Contemporary Turkish Literature and contemporary Turkish Writers so that literature world can be enriched further. Yours sincerely... Tagorgora. Vox populi vox Dei.
1874:
writer explains his opinions on such matters. but I don't know whether an english version of the article can be found on the web. I just wanted to give the wikipedia community these info. as far as notabilty, he is surely notable. this particular web site
140:
This article and all the articles on his books are a part of an aggressive self (?)-pr covering a growing number of wp editions; whilst he has little notability in english and even less in all the other languages. Note also the previous intro statement
1735:
other search engines or even in databases, because of the wrong records, spelling mistakes it is not always easy to find a book in a quick search. National Library of Turkey Database in Ankara is the largest database. Please check the following page:
863:, certainly notable in Turkey, the question is if it isn't a case for Turkish Knowledge (XXG) ... as for will be published soon in England: Knowledge (XXG) is not a crystal ball, we have things that happened and that are verifiable in an Encyclopedia
1704:
which can be found only in seller of secondhand books... We give big importance to Knowledge (XXG) and all we want is to be here, to let others know about the Contemporary Turkish Literature and share with you... yours sincerely... Tagorgora.
709:
as evidence that perhaps it's legitimate to keep the titles as is, as long as the books have been published. On the surface, though, he seems to qualify as notable enough in Turkey, which I'd say makes him sufficiently notable here as well.
1451:
delete the article anyway. User conduct is not grounds for article deletion. So, basically, improve or let it go. I do have to say that if this article creation gimmick is really as elaborate as it seems like at this point, this is
234:
different WP (half have already deleted or started a deletion procedure) is an incredible attempt to use the limited resources of WP for a worldwide self promotion. A violation of WP's principles that are the reason for my vote.
1799:
not even thinking of comparing him with writers in other languages). This is just to exemplify some of the points made about his notability. Then again, these points must carefully be found amid other less relevant arguments. --
480:, but half a thousand words of ego-massage it is not. As for little sock-puppet friends, just having written all these plays and books is not really the issue: I'd like a little more evidence of someone having ever read them.
312:
If I'm the proponent cited as saying that a published book makes one notable (there's another one who does more, but I was the first one), I feel I should clarify my position. I'd misread the nomination as suggesting that the
1322:
This vote might be sock puppetry. If I counted right, this is the 9th sockpuppet or suspected sockpuppet of Mehmet Murat Ildan (not all of them voted though, a few just tried to fix the article to try desperately to save it)
1624:. In contrast, I can pick up any book off a pile here at the University of Otago library, and find multiple listings. For example "Renata's Journey", (1994), a historical narrative of a particular expedition in 1843/44 by
1164:, whose reputation is not in any doubt and would not resort to such low actions to sell a few more of his books? By voting to delete this article, you are voting to protect the good name of Turkey and Turkish writers. --
1599:
that the books seemed to have been published, I have tried to find listings for the ISBN 975-17-2629-8 for "The Beggar’s Prophecy (Dilencinin Kehaneti)" which is supposed to have had a 4k print run in 2001 - no records
793:, is author's official publishing house and you can find his books over there as well. I think there exist a germen internet book site as well, wehere especially Turkish-Germans can buy his or other Turkisk books.
997:
Thanks for correcting, so I was saying that he's not among the 2 023 most famous turkish writers, and that we do not know if he is among the 10 000. But as for notability it's still a very important information.
795:
I have also seen that all the information in the article is verifiable. For instance in the article it mentions Absinthe: New European Writing Journal. I made a search on it. You can see his name appears in
734:, the page rank on the right, it is fair to say that author has certain notability. Also, as we all know that PEN Clubs are important and serious literary organisations. In Turkish PEN's official web site,
1130:
disapprove of this! This guy has bbooks published. see above links, I checked them. So just because english speakers don't read him it means he doesn't exist as a writer or what? This is an english
616:
In Latin Knowledge (XXG): "Calling it a self-promotion is curious. Nobody can know whether Mehmet knows about this case at all, although someone claimed the opposite. Ok, the promotion was bad, but
1043:
472:
or, at the very least, rewrite by someone who isn't directly related to the author by virtue of being...the author. There may be a case for inclusion on local site, as there is a review of
985:
If you read the preface about that website, you will notice that the web version has only 2.023 the most notable of about 10.000 Turkish authors which are listed in the printed version
1795:
possible non-notability and possible lack of reliable sources. Nevertheless, some good points have been made. For instance, somebody pointed out the "Encyclopedia of Turkish Authors"
946:
writer de facto less important than a minor English-speaking one, not allowing a minor one (independently from his nationality) to advertise freely, should this be the case here. --
127:
1477:
The books seem to have been published, and nobody's flagged anything about a vanity press/print on demand outfit being involved, so that particular obstacle looks cleared.
545:
is an example of a real, in-depth, review. Even if it were, one could argue that the Turkish Ministry of Culture is not the most independent of reviewers. Note also that
920:
1879:
is the most visited web site (among the theatre web sites) in Turkey. Please ellaborate on my new article World Short Story Day as well. Take care. Hande, 31 jan 2007
502:
admission, and the reviews you source review nothing but the size of the book. Useful only if you're looking to buy a paperweight or a draft excluder. I still say
875:
the article, every writer has her or his advocates, that is quite normal. I have read some parts of author's play Master William Shakespeare, which is available in
1731:
528:
Series Series No: 338-203 ISBN: 975-17-2629-8 Copies Printed : 4,000 Price: 800,000 TL Description: Mehmet Murat ildan’s play about a beggar and a lady in Paris.
1736:
1405:
1882:
1743:
1707:
1188:
597:
1342:
again. Several Turkish-speaking Wikipedians (including one who has my utmost trust in anything Turkey-related) have attested this author is notable. –
456:
the author has not only vandalized en.wikipedia and other languages, he has also hijacked the effort to delete this vanity article by sockpuppetry. --
157:", when the book in question is due to be published in february this year (now corected to march). When the article also stated that this unpublished
100:
95:
185:) has corrected this, the most obvious errors in the biography, this is still selfbiograhy, vanity and spamming. It remains to be explained why he (
104:
351:
Seems to me as being a part of a wery cheap ad-campaign. Cheap moneywise, that is. Is Knowledge (XXG) supposed to sponsor him in all languages?
87:
1727:
I would like to give additional information about the library records as a proof of the books existence. Here is the National Library records.
189:) wishes to make the impression that all of his books have an english title, as if they have been translated. And it is still a fact the he (
1370:. This article was spread into ca 30 languages. This is obviously unproportional, and suggests an agenda of spamming beyond significance. --
1747:
1894:
1711:
1433:
language made an extra effort of countering the apparent spam in like fashion. I believe that is more or less the core of this issue. __
1248:
1192:
601:
506:
on the Author page (and not the individual play/novel pages) provided there's an agricultural scale cull of the pooterism & puffery.
886:
not signed by Sockpuppet n°4, you could also use the 4 different names that you used to write the article, I'm waiting for their vote.
1293:
1046:. Quoting a visitor on my norwegian talk page: "this guy launched one of the most incredible spam event that I've ever seen on WP" --
786:
1446:
attack and b) an equally elaborate and rather unprecedented response to it by AfDing the articles everywhere. So, right now, I'd say
1385:, the recent nobel prize winner. In many small WP they are the only 2 authors listed in the turkish writers category (ie in finnish)
17:
1062:, It needs work on establishing the significance. Current form of the page does not have significant info, lets say textual depth.
477:
1126:- I don't see why to delete this article... Honestly, there is some ongoing prejudice about Turkish articles in wikipedia, and I
790:
181:
1813:
1796:
986:
975:
782:
778:
701:, although I'll admit to not quite following what's going on here. A brief Google using the Turkish dotted-I spelling throws up
339:
Seems as an obvious case of using Knowledge (XXG) for commercial reasons; what did our new attorney say about such "articles"?
1160:
If you're Turkish, would you want your country to be represented by this self-promoting, non-notable, hack of a writer or by
1018:, self-promotion or non-notability outside of origin country have never been reasons to delete in English Knowledge (XXG). --
974:
that he isn't even listed in the turkish ministry of culture's turkish authors encyclopedia, that contains hundreds of names
1030:
There are considerably less notable bios in the English Knowledge (XXG). Seems to meet our marginal bar for significance.
403:
1579:
1466:
1423:
594:
This writer does not exist. He has not published any books at all. he is fiction. I comment to delete him. it is obvious.
490:
394:
in that list it would count for nothing, being the equivalent of a directory listing if it has 10k entries. Does not meet
1616:
1510:
158:
148:
1992:
1975:
1954:
1917:
1898:
1855:
1842:
1803:
1787:
1771:
1755:
1719:
1658:
1641:
1583:
1553:
1544:
1517:
1488:
1470:
1437:
1427:
1389:
1374:
1350:
1327:
1312:
1299:
1268:
1219:
1200:
1168:
1151:
1118:
1096:
1066:
1050:
1034:
1022:
1002:
992:
980:
950:
940:
927:
911:
890:
867:
851:
842:
819:
752:
718:
686:
674:
662:
650:
638:
624:
609:
589:
577:
559:
510:
496:
484:
460:
448:
432:
416:
371:
355:
343:
329:
307:
294:
279:
263:
250:
238:
220:
66:
36:
962:
A published author, notable in his own language group at least. Spam is annoying but does not make him insignificant.
831:
the article, from google search it is obvious that he is a known writer. My vote is to keep. Alpacin. 27 January 2007
1185:
The article is not Self promoting, it is INFORMATION PROMOTING which is the most important aim of Knowledge (XXG)...
801:
196:
Please also note that all his alleged "books" have their own articles; though several of his listed plays (such as
193:) is abusing wikipedia worldwide (or, actually, languagewide) severly in order to self promote beyond notability.
1663:
I am sincerely hoping that the following library and book web site pages will persuade you that these books exist:
1607:
835:
209:
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
1751:
1610:
907:
671:
410:, I think letting this article remain would encourage similar WikiSpamming, which would be a very Bad thing.--
1715:
1244:
1196:
605:
91:
1991:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
1890:
1612:. So I tried the listed ISBN for Sisam Adası Aşıkları - Lovers of Samos Island, 2006 and got nothing again.
1236:
246:- there is odd smell coming from this writer. Better to wait and see if he actually is what he claim is. --
1288:
706:
903:
1886:
1688:
1682:
1240:
1063:
1042:. I have also nominated for deletion 10 articles on mostly unpublished and unstaged plays by Ildan; see
785:. There is a famous Publishing house on plays in Istanbul. You can find his book on their site as well:
247:
205:
83:
75:
1632:, of academic interest only, and probably had a small print run. ISBN 0908812361, and look, a listing.
806:
201:
1309:
427:
176:
1619:
1564:
1534:
1504:
1485:
1399:
1165:
1085:
659:
621:
197:
1077:
876:
787:
http://www.mitosboyut.net/index.php?option=com_productbook&func=detail&Itemid=30&id=135
735:
1852:
1694:
1550:
1529:
1514:
1182:
1780:
1639:
1542:
1111:
1089:
557:
414:
1970:
1949:
1606:. Have also tried the University Library catalogues of several Turkish Universities, no hits.
1575:
1462:
1419:
1348:
1283:
1146:
864:
791:
http://www.truvabookstore.com/main/product_detail.asp?pro_ID=19&sub_cat_ID=11&cat_ID=5
489:
Actually, there are five reviews of his works if you search the name through this search page
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
1910:
1848:
1667:
1443:
1412:
is going on? An craftily orchestrated international deletion debate, or business as usual? --
783:
http://www.kultur.gov.tr/EN/BelgeGoster.aspx?17A16AE30572D3137A2395174CFB32E19EDC603C979CEB01
779:
http://www.kultur.gov.tr/EN/BelgeGoster.aspx?17A16AE30572D3138FE9074FF19B0005DFB6D1186A7B243F
291:
1691:
1655:
715:
572:
542:
326:
276:
144:
1697:
1679:
1676:
1673:
1442:
After considering the case, it does appear to be a case of a) an unprecedentedly elaborate
546:
539:
407:
386:. The first page of Google results is self-promotion or otherwise trivial articles. As per
383:
1800:
1768:
1685:
1404:. The same article is being considered for deletion in multiple Wikipedias all of sudden?
947:
937:
924:
800:. In the article it mentions about AQT competition. I found information in this web page:
683:
635:
424:
260:
49:
1867:
774:
1700:
1613:
834:
Hmmm. Two absolutely fresh users, who has only written in this debate!? This looks like
1839:
1363:
647:
507:
481:
368:
340:
549:
suggests that simply publishing is not sufficient, the author must have also received
395:
1636:
1601:
1539:
1261:
1212:
1019:
963:
731:
554:
457:
411:
288:
766:
1967:
1946:
1570:
1525:
1457:
1414:
1343:
1143:
1031:
789:. There exist at least 100 pages where one can buy his books. This particular site
586:
1670:
1406:
first deletion proposal I've seen in Finnish Knowledge (XXG) that isn't in Finnish
727:
121:
1509:. For some reasons why to keep this article, see the (English) discussion in the
802:
http://undergroundtransit.blogspot.com/2005_04_10_undergroundtransit_archive.html
553:. Perhaps if more time was spent improving the plays instead of WikiSpamming...--
367:
for all the plays and books articles that he also created here. Self promotion --
1914:
1651:
1633:
1596:
1478:
1386:
1382:
1371:
1324:
1265:
1216:
1161:
1093:
1047:
999:
977:
887:
848:
839:
816:
749:
711:
445:
441:
387:
352:
322:
304:
272:
235:
217:
212:
etc) has no information about publishing or stage performances; they are merely
1647:
797:
770:
702:
1408:, for example. Can anyone tell me, admittedly, a slow-witted fellow, what the
1339:
1871:
1434:
989:
493:
398:- can't find any English primary sources...in fact, it's quite hard to find
1698:
Turkish Ministry of Culture Library Dilencinin Kehaneti - Beggar's Prophecy
1692:
Ilknokta Book Web Site Antikacı Arago'nun Günlüğü - Antiquary Arago's Diary
1929:
reverted to editions turkish title following user Orland's contributions.
378:
152:
1080:, who must be recognized for some insight in turkish literature removed
1689:
Turkish Books Site Antikacı Arago'nun Günlüğü - Antiquary Arago's Diary
1362:
Supplying a perspective: A biography of modern turkish national author
1629:
259:
after reading the very dubious interventions in favour of keeping. --
1937:: For god's sake, what's this longish debate about someone who has
1668:
Istanbul Technical University Library Antiquary Arago's Diary Novel
847:
3, you forgot to count the IP that has also expressed a keep vote.
1625:
1680:
Turkish Ministry of Culture Library Antiquary Arago's Diary Novel
1671:
Istanbul Bilgi University Library Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi Play
1985:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
1683:
Turkish Books Site Sisam Adası Aşıkları - Lovers of Samos Island
877:
http://www.pen-tr.org/en/writes.asp?catid=1&name=2&id=56
736:
http://www.pen-tr.org/en/writes.asp?catid=1&name=2&id=56
571:. Let's not encourage people to write articles on themselves. --
1044:
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/An Admirer of Machiavelli
902:
and clean out the self-promotion. Seems "notable" enough. --
769:(This is a known publishing house in Turkey); another one is
468:
for all ancillary articles on plays and books. For the BIO:
1701:
William Shakespeare Play Advertisement in Milliyet Newspaper
1677:
Turkish Ministry of Culture Library William Shakespeare Play
1604:
538:
a review, that is a directory/index listing. It is not an
1876:
1674:
Turkish Ministry of Culture Library - Galileo Galilei Play
1484:
Finnish vote seems to be for keep 26/10 at the moment. --
551:
multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work
534:
I don't know what other people think, but to me that is
1081:
777:. This particular site sends books all over the world.
117:
113:
109:
1945:. 100 million speakers of the Turkish language CAN. --
1088:, when Tagorgora tried to edit Ildan into the article
775:
http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=zBK964063WA584
287:, Knowledge (XXG) is not a place for self-promotion.
521:
Well, the full text of the "reviews" look like this:
406:
that now comes up when you run a search!! Given the
167:, we an easily assume that this author not notable,
39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
781:(This one is Republic of Turkey, Ministery Page)
732:http://www.alexa.com/browse?&CategoryID=113181
255:Delete, per Clem23's first intervention, becoming
767:http://www.imge.com.tr/person.php?person_id=22366
1995:). No further edits should be made to this page.
728:http://www.essex.ac.uk/alumni/pubs/nineties.htm
444:- Knowledge (XXG) is not a commercial website.
8:
815:This account is likely to be a sock-puppet.
798:http://www.absinthenew.com/pages/issue2.html
771:http://kitap.antoloji.com/kisi.asp?CAS=33853
1964:I added the ecessary references to the page
1538:is meant to indicate a comment or a vote?--
476:book on the Turkish tourism board website
1812:I think you are talking about this page.
1381:There is also a relevant comparison with
1621:. These were the only ones I could find:
1686:Ormanın Hayaletleri - Ghosts of Forest
1868:Turkish Authors Association in Ankara
1615:. No hits even for the authors name.
1281:notable somewhere else in the world.
1134:encyclopedia, not an encyclopedia of
18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
7:
1138:... he has several published books.
1084:by the most frequent Ildan-agitator
1737:National Library of Turkey Database
1732:National Library of Turkey Database
1140:turkish national libraries list him
726:the article,When we check the page
271:vast campaign of self promotion. --
317:were unpublished, rather than the
149:The First Sorrows of Young Werther
24:
1872:Thoughts on the banns in theatre
1847:Side note: The Latin is ok, see
1568:" as in "what's going on?" =) --
1563:
1533:
1503:
1398:
175:Even though an anonymous newbee
1558:A comment. "Strong" as in "I'd
936:Could you elaborate on this? --
618:the reaction smells bad as well
540:in-depth, non-trivial article.
1:
1595:Hm. Following the comment by
1532:clarify whether their use of
585:. Self-promoting spammer. --
1976:21:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
1955:20:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
1918:17:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
1899:12:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
1856:18:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
1843:00:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
1804:20:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1788:19:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1772:16:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1756:12:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1720:09:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1659:01:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1642:01:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1584:20:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1554:19:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1545:19:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1518:18:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1489:18:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1471:20:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1438:18:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1428:13:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1390:13:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
1375:13:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
1351:23:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
1328:11:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
1313:10:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
1300:01:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
1269:17:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1220:17:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1201:14:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1169:14:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
1152:15:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
1119:11:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1097:11:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
1067:23:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
1051:08:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
1035:08:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
1023:07:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
1003:11:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
993:09:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
981:07:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
951:23:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
941:23:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
928:22:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
912:21:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
891:16:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
868:15:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
852:15:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
843:15:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
820:11:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
753:13:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
719:10:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
687:16:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
675:18:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
663:14:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
651:11:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
639:07:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
625:18:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
610:15:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
590:12:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
578:12:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
560:20:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
511:02:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
497:18:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
485:17:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
461:15:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
449:14:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
433:11:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
417:10:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
372:09:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
356:08:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
344:07:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
330:04:35, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
308:03:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
295:01:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
280:18:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
264:18:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
251:18:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
239:10:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
221:09:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
67:00:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
1142:. what else do you need? --
2012:
1909:This would be the seventh
210:Master Moliere is Marrying
1646:I'll refer once again to
1988:Please do not modify it.
1183:Turkish PEN Club Members
1076:. Please also note that
32:Please do not modify it.
151:, he is regarded as a
1885:comment was added by
1849:la:Vicipaedia:A est B
1746:comment was added by
1710:comment was added by
1511:Latin Knowledge (XXG)
1308:- notable in Turkey--
1191:comment was added by
600:comment was added by
1913:to defend Ildan. --
1593:Additional Comments
1260:This vote might be
1211:This vote might be
672:Epaphroditus Ph. M.
1939:10 books published
1090:Turkish literature
206:Goddesses also Die
84:Mehmet Murat İldan
76:Mehmet Murat İldan
1973:
1952:
1902:
1759:
1723:
1253:
1239:comment added by
1204:
1149:
910:
748:
613:
363:the article, and
229:the article, and
184:
2003:
1990:
1971:
1950:
1880:
1785:
1741:
1705:
1567:
1562:like to know", "
1537:
1507:
1455:frown-worthy. --
1402:
1346:
1296:
1291:
1286:
1252:
1233:
1186:
1147:
1116:
1064:OttomanReference
906:
745:
595:
202:Alchemist's Wife
191:or his advocates
187:or his advocates
180:
145:epistolary novel
125:
107:
64:
58:
54:
34:
2011:
2010:
2006:
2005:
2004:
2002:
2001:
2000:
1999:
1993:deletion review
1986:
1881:—The preceding
1814:Turkish Authors
1781:
1767:accusations. --
1742:—The preceding
1706:—The preceding
1656:Schreit mich an
1368:10 wp languages
1359:
1344:
1294:
1289:
1284:
1234:
1187:—The preceding
1181:this web page:
1112:
716:Schreit mich an
695:
596:—The preceding
529:
402:in the mess of
327:Schreit mich an
177:User:Melanicool
137:
98:
82:
79:
60:
56:
50:
44:The result was
37:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
2009:
2007:
1998:
1997:
1981:
1980:
1979:
1978:
1958:
1957:
1931:
1930:
1923:
1922:
1921:
1920:
1904:
1903:
1860:
1859:
1858:
1829:
1828:
1820:
1819:
1818:
1807:
1806:
1791:
1790:
1774:
1748:88.231.213.149
1729:
1728:
1665:
1664:
1661:
1644:
1589:
1588:
1587:
1586:
1556:
1521:
1520:
1499:
1498:
1497:
1496:
1495:
1494:
1493:
1492:
1491:
1440:
1393:
1392:
1378:
1377:
1366:excists in ca
1358:
1355:
1354:
1353:
1333:
1332:
1331:
1330:
1317:
1316:
1302:
1274:
1273:
1272:
1271:
1255:
1254:
1225:
1224:
1223:
1222:
1206:
1205:
1174:
1173:
1172:
1171:
1155:
1154:
1136:English things
1121:
1104:
1103:
1102:
1101:
1100:
1099:
1086:User:Tagorgora
1056:
1055:
1054:
1053:
1025:
1013:
1012:
1011:
1010:
1009:
1008:
1007:
1006:
1005:
956:
955:
954:
953:
943:
931:
930:
914:
904:badlydrawnjeff
896:
895:
894:
893:
881:
880:
870:
858:
857:
856:
855:
854:
825:
824:
823:
822:
810:
809:
794:
773:. Another one
758:
757:
756:
755:
740:
739:
721:
694:
691:
690:
689:
677:
665:
658:not notable --
653:
641:
629:
628:
627:
592:
580:
565:
564:
563:
562:
526:
525:
524:
523:
522:
516:
515:
514:
513:
499:
463:
451:
435:
419:
382:Does not meet
374:
358:
346:
334:
333:
332:
297:
282:
266:
253:
241:
198:Journey to God
173:
172:
143:Following his
136:
133:
132:
131:
78:
73:
71:
42:
41:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
2008:
1996:
1994:
1989:
1983:
1982:
1977:
1974:
1969:
1965:
1962:
1961:
1960:
1959:
1956:
1953:
1948:
1944:
1943:can't read it
1940:
1936:
1933:
1932:
1928:
1925:
1924:
1919:
1916:
1912:
1908:
1907:
1906:
1905:
1900:
1896:
1892:
1888:
1887:HandeKurtulus
1884:
1878:
1873:
1869:
1864:
1861:
1857:
1854:
1850:
1846:
1845:
1844:
1841:
1837:
1834:
1833:
1832:
1826:
1825:
1821:
1815:
1811:
1810:
1809:
1808:
1805:
1802:
1797:
1793:
1792:
1789:
1786:
1784:
1783:Vito Genovese
1778:
1775:
1773:
1770:
1765:
1762:
1761:
1760:
1757:
1753:
1749:
1745:
1738:
1733:
1726:
1725:
1724:
1721:
1717:
1713:
1712:88.226.141.13
1709:
1702:
1699:
1696:
1695:TNN Bookstore
1693:
1690:
1687:
1684:
1681:
1678:
1675:
1672:
1669:
1662:
1660:
1657:
1653:
1649:
1645:
1643:
1640:
1638:
1634:
1631:
1627:
1623:
1620:
1617:
1614:
1611:
1608:
1605:
1602:
1598:
1594:
1591:
1590:
1585:
1581:
1577:
1573:
1572:
1566:
1561:
1557:
1555:
1552:
1549:A comment. --
1548:
1547:
1546:
1543:
1541:
1536:
1531:
1527:
1523:
1522:
1519:
1516:
1512:
1508:
1506:
1500:
1490:
1487:
1483:
1482:
1480:
1476:
1475:
1474:
1473:
1472:
1468:
1464:
1460:
1459:
1454:
1449:
1445:
1441:
1439:
1436:
1431:
1430:
1429:
1425:
1421:
1417:
1416:
1411:
1407:
1403:
1401:
1395:
1394:
1391:
1388:
1384:
1380:
1379:
1376:
1373:
1369:
1365:
1361:
1360:
1356:
1352:
1349:
1347:
1341:
1338:
1335:
1334:
1329:
1326:
1321:
1320:
1319:
1318:
1315:
1314:
1311:
1307:
1303:
1301:
1298:
1297:
1292:
1287:
1279:
1276:
1275:
1270:
1267:
1263:
1262:Sock puppetry
1259:
1258:
1257:
1256:
1250:
1246:
1242:
1241:144.122.73.31
1238:
1230:
1227:
1226:
1221:
1218:
1214:
1213:Sock puppetry
1210:
1209:
1208:
1207:
1202:
1198:
1194:
1193:144.122.73.42
1190:
1184:
1179:
1176:
1175:
1170:
1167:
1163:
1159:
1158:
1157:
1156:
1153:
1150:
1145:
1141:
1137:
1133:
1129:
1125:
1122:
1120:
1117:
1115:
1114:Vito Genovese
1109:
1106:
1105:
1098:
1095:
1091:
1087:
1083:
1079:
1078:User:Saposcat
1075:
1072:
1071:
1070:
1069:
1068:
1065:
1061:
1058:
1057:
1052:
1049:
1045:
1041:
1038:
1037:
1036:
1033:
1029:
1026:
1024:
1021:
1017:
1014:
1004:
1001:
996:
995:
994:
991:
987:
984:
983:
982:
979:
976:
973:
969:
968:
967:
966:
965:
964:User:Dimadick
961:
958:
957:
952:
949:
944:
942:
939:
935:
934:
933:
932:
929:
926:
922:
921:systemic bias
918:
915:
913:
909:
905:
901:
898:
897:
892:
889:
885:
884:
883:
882:
878:
874:
871:
869:
866:
862:
859:
853:
850:
846:
845:
844:
841:
837:
836:Sock puppetry
833:
832:
830:
827:
826:
821:
818:
814:
813:
812:
811:
808:
803:
799:
792:
788:
784:
780:
776:
772:
768:
763:
760:
759:
754:
751:
744:
743:
742:
741:
737:
733:
729:
725:
722:
720:
717:
713:
708:
704:
700:
697:
696:
692:
688:
685:
681:
678:
676:
673:
670:per Clem23 --
669:
666:
664:
661:
657:
654:
652:
649:
645:
644:Strong delete
642:
640:
637:
633:
630:
626:
623:
619:
615:
614:
611:
607:
603:
602:144.122.73.12
599:
593:
591:
588:
584:
583:Strong Delete
581:
579:
576:
575:
570:
567:
566:
561:
558:
556:
552:
548:
544:
541:
537:
533:
532:
531:
530:
520:
519:
518:
517:
512:
509:
505:
500:
498:
495:
491:
488:
487:
486:
483:
479:
475:
471:
467:
466:Strong Delete
464:
462:
459:
455:
454:Strong Delete
452:
450:
447:
443:
439:
436:
434:
431:
430:
426:
423:
420:
418:
415:
413:
409:
405:
401:
397:
393:
390:, even if he
389:
385:
381:
380:
375:
373:
370:
366:
365:speedy delete
362:
361:Strong Delete
359:
357:
354:
350:
347:
345:
342:
338:
335:
331:
328:
324:
320:
316:
311:
310:
309:
306:
301:
298:
296:
293:
290:
286:
283:
281:
278:
274:
270:
269:Strong delete
267:
265:
262:
258:
257:strong delete
254:
252:
249:
248:Finn Bjorklid
245:
242:
240:
237:
232:
231:speedy delete
228:
225:
224:
223:
222:
219:
215:
211:
207:
203:
199:
194:
192:
188:
183:
178:
170:
166:
162:
161:
160:Young Werther
156:
154:
150:
146:
139:
138:
134:
129:
123:
119:
115:
111:
106:
102:
97:
93:
89:
85:
81:
80:
77:
74:
72:
69:
68:
65:
63:
59:
53:
47:
40:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
1987:
1984:
1963:
1942:
1938:
1934:
1926:
1862:
1835:
1830:
1823:
1822:
1782:
1776:
1763:
1730:
1666:
1592:
1569:
1559:
1501:
1456:
1452:
1447:
1413:
1409:
1396:
1367:
1337:Strong keep.
1336:
1305:
1304:
1282:
1277:
1235:— Preceding
1228:
1177:
1139:
1135:
1131:
1127:
1123:
1113:
1107:
1074:Further info
1073:
1059:
1039:
1027:
1015:
971:
959:
916:
899:
872:
865:Alf photoman
860:
828:
761:
723:
698:
679:
667:
655:
643:
631:
617:
582:
573:
568:
550:
535:
503:
473:
469:
465:
453:
437:
428:
421:
399:
391:
377:Delete with
376:
364:
360:
348:
336:
318:
314:
299:
284:
268:
256:
243:
230:
226:
213:
195:
190:
186:
174:
168:
164:
159:
142:
70:
61:
55:
51:
45:
43:
31:
28:
1972:Gül Bahçesi
1951:Gül Bahçesi
1911:Sock puppet
1448:Weak Delete
1383:Orhan Pamuk
1364:Yaşar Kemal
1278:Strong Keep
1229:Strong Keep
1178:Strong Keep
1162:Orhan Pamuk
1148:Gül Bahçesi
807:Faydunnaway
762:Strong Keep
574:Woohookitty
300:Weak Delete
214:manuscripts
165:magnum opus
1801:Goochelaar
1769:Goochelaar
1340:Linguicism
1310:Boookabooo
1285:S h a r k
972:so notable
948:Goochelaar
938:Goochelaar
925:Baristarim
684:Orang gila
636:VaclavSmar
425:Tuohirulla
404:GoogleSpam
261:Goochelaar
1840:Scandrett
1648:this site
1486:Sun-o-man
1166:Pancasila
1082:this edit
1060:Week Keep
861:Weak Keep
838:to me. --
707:this tome
703:this site
699:Weak keep
660:Pancasila
648:Prittglue
622:Sun-o-man
508:Scandrett
504:weak keep
482:Scandrett
369:Dalgspleh
341:Ulflarsen
1895:contribs
1883:unsigned
1877:Tiyatrom
1851:. ;-) --
1744:unsigned
1708:unsigned
1290:f a c e
1249:contribs
1237:unsigned
1189:unsigned
1132:language
1020:Tbonefin
919:and see
598:unsigned
458:Clouseth
400:anything
379:Thermite
153:romantic
128:View log
1968:Teemeah
1947:Teemeah
1935:Comment
1927:Comment
1863:Comment
1853:Roland2
1836:Comment
1824:COMMENT
1777:Comment
1764:Comment
1571:wwwwolf
1551:Roland2
1530:Roland2
1526:wwwwolf
1515:Roland2
1502:Strong
1458:wwwwolf
1415:wwwwolf
1397:Strong
1357:Comment
1345:Alensha
1144:Teemeah
1032:Huangdi
682:spam --
646:vanity
587:Yekrats
182:contrib
163:is his
101:protect
96:history
1915:Orland
1652:BigHaz
1630:Pakeha
1597:BigHaz
1580:growls
1560:really
1524:Would
1479:BigHaz
1467:growls
1424:growls
1387:Clem23
1372:Orland
1325:Clem23
1295:2 1 7
1266:Orland
1217:Orland
1128:highly
1094:Orland
1048:Orland
1000:Clem23
978:Clem23
970:He is
888:Clem23
849:Clem23
840:Orland
817:Clem23
750:Clem23
712:BigHaz
680:Delete
668:Delete
656:Delete
632:Delete
569:Delete
547:WP:BIO
470:Delete
446:Surena
442:Clem23
440:- Per
438:Delete
422:Delete
388:Clem23
384:WP:BIO
353:Noorse
349:Delete
337:Delete
323:BigHaz
305:Montco
289:Kjetil
285:Delete
277:-: -->
244:Delete
236:Clem23
227:Delete
218:Orland
155:writer
135:Delete
105:delete
46:DELETE
1626:Maori
1576:barks
1463:barks
1420:barks
620:." --
408:socks
319:plays
315:books
122:views
114:watch
110:links
16:<
1891:talk
1752:talk
1716:talk
1637:inks
1628:and
1540:inks
1528:and
1513:. --
1453:most
1444:VSCA
1435:meco
1410:heck
1306:Keep
1245:talk
1197:talk
1124:Keep
1108:Keep
1092:. --
1028:Keep
1016:Keep
990:Ekeb
988:. --
960:Keep
917:Keep
908:talk
900:Keep
873:Keep
829:Keep
724:Keep
693:Keep
606:talk
555:inks
543:This
494:Ekeb
492:. --
478:here
429:puhu
412:inks
396:WP:V
392:were
273:Vlad
208:and
118:logs
92:talk
88:edit
52:Buck
1635:.--
1040:FYI
536:NOT
474:one
216:.
169:yet
126:– (
62:ofg
57:ets
1897:)
1893:•
1754:)
1718:)
1654:-
1618:,
1609:,
1603:,
1582:)
1481:-
1469:)
1426:)
1264:--
1251:)
1247:•
1215:--
1199:)
923:.
714:-
608:)
325:-
292:_r
204:,
200:,
147:,
120:|
116:|
112:|
108:|
103:|
99:|
94:|
90:|
48:.
1901:.
1889:(
1758:.
1750:(
1722:.
1714:(
1578:/
1574:(
1465:/
1461:(
1422:/
1418:(
1243:(
1203:.
1195:(
612:.
604:(
275:|
179:(
171:.
141:"
130:)
124:)
86:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.