420:. The Mizpah Creek Incidents resulted in the first Montana Territorial Court case east of Bozeman, with a reporter present from the New York Times. That alone should be important enough to not delete the page. I don't know why all some Knowledge Users seems to want to do is to delete others pages. All I am trying to do is to improve Knowledge, and make more people aware of certain historical events, and I don't intend to offend anyone. I believe that the article should be left alone. Sincerely
721:"Agressively stalking the contributor for some reason"? If you see many articles created by the same author on non-notable topics, then it is only logical and expected that you keep an eye on further creations. Feel free to revisit the other AfD's, that is your right. I brought all these to AfD for community discussion, so it's not as if I was the only one advocating for deletion or as if I was doing it secretly. But if you think bringing
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appears to do so too. The fact that you can't find the exact title in a search is not grounds for deletion. It might be grounds for renaming, but it's not grounds for deletion. And yes, you do have a poor search technique. I would say the title is descriptive rather than an actual proper name and
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Congressional Medal of Honor for his part. That alone speaks
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make clear, Fram's reasons are spurious. (Spinningspark, do you ride stop and turn around palominos?) Simply by the arguments presented here, I might suggest a look at the articles of Powder River 1876 which Fram has gotten deleted and see if they might also be made worthy, if indeed they are not
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744:-- I think one has to draw the line somewhere. We have recently had nominations for an incident in Scottish clan warfare and now for one from the Wild West (I watch history AFDs). I think we need a discussion as to how small a battle needs to be to be WP-notable.
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I wouldn't call "using the exact article title" a "poor search technique". There seem to be no sources that call these events the "Mizpah Creek
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The only result I see when I follow your link is for "MIZPAH® Relationship Ring" :-) Regionalised Google results are a pest, one aspect of Net
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appears to devote several pages, although only snippet view is available. Many other books cleary have coverage, but it is hard to tell how much from snippet view. There is also
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The claim of the nomination that there are no book hits for this topic is false. This seems to be due to poor search technique as it only took a few seconds of searching to find
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