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Doesn't seem to be a bird that has ever existed, but if it has existed, it should be kept, however, merged into one article about Mialoa. If this is a hoax, it's probably a stupid hoax since I don't see what anyone could gain from creating an article like this. In any case, if it is a hoax, the
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I would be delighted to change my recommended "Strong Keep" (above) to a "Delete" if someone who knows about birds will look at some of Barati11's many artiicles relating to
Hawaiian ornithology to see if he has been perpetuating numerous hoaxes, or has just decided to behave very
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the lot. Speedily if possible. Hoax, albeit a clever one. Even extremely unknown bird species generate a hit or fifty on google. Web of
Science found nothing, and as a PhD student of Pacific birds it's afe to say that this is not something we want around.
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per nom - ditto to Maias, an obvious hoax and not a very good one. One clear give-away is the use of imperial units, not SI units; no scientist would use them in describing a genuine species -
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uncharacteristically in several recent instances. His record does not really look like that of a hoaxer, especially in what I must assume is his own field.
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