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531:. I would be happier there were more secondary sources other than MathWorld cited though. I do have an issue with the lack of biographical material in the article however. No date and place of birth, nothing about where he got his degree, etc. To me, notable subject or not, you should at least have some basic facts before creating an article, otherwise you might as well just put the name on the requested articles list. But presumably that info can be found and added to the article so it's a fixable issue and shouldn't be deleted for that reason.-- 404:. I was in the same quandary as Agricola44 regarding this. The subject has a grand total of 18 citations on HPoP, with an h-index of 2. Yet, the term “Somos sequence” has 329 citations and an h-index of 11, also on HPoP. And I wouldn’t be surprised if different searches for ideas by the subject would uncover many more hits. In other words, the idea (or ideas) lives on and is cited, but not with reference to its originator or the original article. I guess some great mathematicians who have WP articles (e.g., 527:: I'm not sure that getting something named for him should be the criterion; not everything gets named after someone who actually had anything to do with inventing it. But if the person did invent something which is mentioned in a secondary source it seems to me that that would qualify as "significant impact" to satisfy 382:. We should tread carefully here, as this seems to be a rather unusual case. Article and supporting info suggest he's not a professional mathematician. Nevertheless, there appear to be at least 2 significant results named after him. This certainly does imply 552:? Should we count that as another "keep" vote? It appears to be Zeilberger's only Knowledge edit, and somewhat competently done. He may be a total newbie among Wikipedians, but he is a respected mathematician. 158: 242: 408:, admittedly from another era) have low citations and h-indexes, but when one looks at citations to their ideas, they are much, much higher. Bottom line: I think the subject meets 386:
amount of notability, but I don't feel knowledgeable enough about these areas at the moment to render an opinion on whether it is sufficient for our purposes. Respectfully,
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He is notable enough to have something like that named after him. Inventing a major mathematical equation is notable work. There are 82 results in Google scholar search
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to the article. I remember Somos speaking at the MIT combinatorics seminar. But probably that in itself is not evidence of "notability".
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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per DreamFocus. One of the references has been added , and there is plenty of scope for the article to grow.
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criterion #1 (significant impact in scholarly discipline, broadly construed), although in an unorthodox way.--
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Disputed PROD, removed with comment '(remove prod. Noted by Mathworld. Should be AfDd.)'. I can't find
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Has anyone verified that the original creator of this article is in fact, as it appears,
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I've sent Prof. Zeilberger an email asking if he'd like to comment here.
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Another post on the academic delsort page clears up the mystery of HPoP:
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would be appropriate, because Somos also appears to be notable for
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nor Google is shedding any light. Could you disabbreviate this?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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into an (as-yet-nonexistent, but easily stubbed out) article on
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list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions
449: 109: 105: 101: 165: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 652:). No further edits should be made to this page. 270:, which are a notable topic in mathematics (see 179: 8: 237: 428:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 241:: This debate has been included in the 7: 488:In view of developments I change to 363:Somos' quadratic recurrence constant 342:Somos' quadratic recurrence constant 292:I have since started an article on 336:. I'm not sure that a redirect to 24: 203:of the subject, so seems to fail 594:and some of that looks notable. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 272:Google scholar search results 635:18:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC) 618:17:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC) 580:21:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC) 562:19:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC) 541:16:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC) 520:19:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC) 62:00:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC) 502:22:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 478:13:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 464:05:36, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 444:04:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 422:01:22, 9 October 2009 (UTC) 396:16:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC) 375:05:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC) 354:22:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 328:22:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 306:23:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 288:22:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 258:21:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 232:21:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC) 669: 278:and redirects are cheap. — 645:Please do not modify it. 316:sounds like a good idea. 32:Please do not modify it. 426:"HPoP" redirects to 318:I removed the prod. 314:Merge and redirect 264:Merge and redirect 44:The result was 406:Niels Henrik Abel 260: 246: 230: 50:non-admin closure 660: 647: 614: 611: 608: 605: 602: 599: 550:Doron Zeilberger 468:Thanks John Z.-- 247: 229: 227: 221: 215: 196:reliable sources 184: 183: 169: 117: 99: 34: 668: 667: 663: 662: 661: 659: 658: 657: 656: 650:deletion review 643: 612: 609: 606: 603: 600: 597: 294:Somos sequences 268:Somos sequences 225: 219: 216: 126: 90: 74: 71: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 666: 664: 655: 654: 638: 637: 620: 585: 584: 583: 582: 565: 564: 543: 522: 505: 486: 485: 484: 483: 482: 481: 480: 399: 377: 356: 338:Somos sequence 331: 310: 309: 308: 298:David Eppstein 280:David Eppstein 261: 250:David Eppstein 187: 186: 123: 70: 65: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 665: 653: 651: 646: 640: 639: 636: 632: 628: 624: 621: 619: 616: 615: 593: 590: 587: 586: 581: 577: 573: 569: 568: 567: 566: 563: 559: 555: 554:Michael Hardy 551: 547: 544: 542: 538: 534: 530: 526: 523: 521: 517: 513: 512:Michael Hardy 509: 506: 503: 499: 495: 491: 487: 479: 475: 471: 467: 466: 465: 461: 457: 453: 450: 447: 446: 445: 441: 437: 436:Michael Hardy 433: 429: 425: 424: 423: 419: 415: 411: 407: 403: 400: 397: 393: 389: 385: 381: 378: 376: 372: 368: 367:Michael Hardy 364: 360: 357: 355: 351: 347: 343: 339: 335: 332: 329: 325: 321: 317: 315: 311: 307: 303: 299: 295: 291: 290: 289: 285: 281: 277: 273: 269: 265: 262: 259: 255: 251: 244: 240: 236: 235: 234: 233: 228: 223: 222: 214: 210: 206: 202: 198: 197: 192: 182: 178: 175: 172: 168: 164: 160: 157: 154: 151: 148: 145: 142: 139: 136: 132: 129: 128:Find sources: 124: 121: 115: 111: 107: 103: 98: 94: 89: 85: 81: 77: 76:Michael Somos 73: 72: 69: 68:Michael Somos 66: 64: 63: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 644: 641: 627:FeydHuxtable 622: 596: 588: 572:Phil Bridger 545: 524: 507: 489: 401: 383: 379: 358: 346:Phil Bridger 333: 313: 312: 263: 238: 218: 200: 194: 193:coverage in 190: 188: 176: 170: 162: 155: 149: 143: 137: 127: 45: 43: 31: 28: 470:Eric Yurken 414:Eric Yurken 361:I've added 201:independent 191:significant 153:free images 54:Ron Ritzman 494:Xxanthippe 388:Agricola44 320:Xxanthippe 525:Weak Keep 199:that are 546:Comment: 359:Comment: 276:WP:BIO1E 120:View log 529:WP:PROF 432:WP:PROF 410:WP:PROF 380:Comment 334:Comment 213:WP:PROF 159:WP refs 147:scholar 93:protect 88:history 533:RDBury 456:John Z 209:WP:BIO 207:, and 205:WP:GNG 131:Google 97:delete 613:Focus 220:Chzz 174:JSTOR 135:books 114:views 106:watch 102:links 16:< 631:talk 623:Keep 589:Keep 576:talk 558:talk 537:talk 516:talk 508:Keep 498:talk 490:Keep 474:talk 460:talk 451:See 440:talk 418:talk 402:Keep 392:talk 384:some 371:talk 350:talk 324:talk 302:talk 284:talk 254:talk 239:Note 167:FENS 141:news 110:logs 84:talk 80:edit 58:talk 46:keep 181:TWL 118:– ( 633:) 578:) 560:) 539:) 518:) 500:) 492:. 476:) 462:) 442:) 420:) 394:) 373:) 352:) 326:) 304:) 286:) 256:) 245:. 226:► 211:, 161:) 112:| 108:| 104:| 100:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 60:) 52:) 629:( 610:m 607:a 604:e 601:r 598:D 574:( 556:( 535:( 514:( 504:. 496:( 472:( 458:( 454:. 438:( 416:( 398:. 390:( 369:( 348:( 330:. 322:( 300:( 282:( 252:( 248:— 185:) 177:· 171:· 163:· 156:· 150:· 144:· 138:· 133:( 125:( 122:) 116:) 78:( 56:(

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