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658:") this person appears to be web-savvy and self-promoting. I have never seen a Google search return so many pages of blogs, e-tailers, lyrics sites and other user-generated stuff without one decent article from an RS (went 5 pages deep). As an indicator of his prowess in getting his name all over the web this is taken from his mini-bio: You can find Mikhail on LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, Knowledge (XXG), MySpace, Elixio, IMDb, Amazon, iTunes, Vimeo. 287: 322:- While the graphical prowess is impressive, let's not make this any more complicated than it needs to be for newcomers to AfD. This is not a vote, after all, it's the arguments that matter. Graphics only divert attention from the meat of the page and have the potential of starting an "arms race" between Keep and Delete voters to keep up. 902:
about what constitutes a reliable source? It's not because the site says "news" that it's a news organisation. Click on the contact section and you will see the contact address is a gmail account. Oh, and this text is a press release, probably written by the above PR agent, and then farmed out to a
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per Scientizzle, nor is there any indication that the subject passes a subject-specific notability guideline. To counter the Keep opinions: raw numbers of google hits means very little indeed, and the total number of unique hits is under 800, "contains valuable encyclopedic information" is not a
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is reliable, I think the phrase "Mikhail Tank has secured his place in history" indicates notability. Perhaps others can examine the source and make a determination. There may be other sources deeper in the google hits. I also noticed that a
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No probs, hope you don't mind I refactored your comment so the Delete appeared in the appropriate place, I was having page-loading stress earlier too, especially with your source as there was so much celebrity junk and ad banners on it.
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Not notable. Ohconfucious should adopt a slightly more cynical attitude toward the Guiness book, whose publishing venture started as a way to make money off people's drive to win bar bets. Not exactly the most idealistic of ventures.
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profile of Tank. For those that don't know, patch.com stories are essentially local news & features (on the order of a community newspaper story) commonly drawn from freelancers that often have no journalism
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For what it's worth, I've actually already communicated with Steven, and he was very reasonable and professional about this AfD. He understands the processes here and is willing to work with them. —
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That's fine. Like I said, I wasn't sure about it, and I was getting google fatigue. :) I wanted to make a good faith effort to find sources though. Thanks for checking. Changing my !vote.
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It's clear he's a very minor artist of little significance or influence. It pains me to learn how Guinness is having titles for such ridiculous category to push the sale of its publication.
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Agree with the above, non-notable, apparently (almost totally) undocumented in reliable secondary sources (of which IMDb is not one, and on his page there it states "IMDb mini-biography by:
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while a few reliable sources seem to exist, they do not appear to cover this person's life in any significant detail as one would expect to pass the minimum notability standards. --
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No evidence in reliable secondary sources that the topic is sufficiently notable for inclusion on WP. The Guiness record is, of course, pure silliness.
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notability rests upon the Guinness record, the show at Edinburgh Fringe, a movie shown at a seemingly non-notable film festival, and what's in the
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is highly objectionable, but an artist being objectionable isn't a reason to delete the article on that person. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I'm going to go against the obvious flow on this one. Profiles present on IMDB, and on allmusic.com.
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Barely meets notability requirements if at all--holds an obscure record and directed a short film. —
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I apologise for being under the mistaken impression that Guinness was a serious publication. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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of radio station sites have the same blurb about him mentioning his Guinness record.
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sources. I would be willing to reevaluate my opinion if further sources are found. —
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and contains valuable encyclopedic information about a not-so-well-known artist. —
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Though this article is part of a conscious PR effort by the subject, it is still
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are not to be found. IMDB lists only bit parts or work in productions of no note.
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the sources cited are not sufficient to demonstrate that the subject satisfies
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Torchiest, I will assume good faith, but are you serious? Have you read
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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returns over 19,000 hits. The artist's rantings and antics at
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list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions
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provide useful information related to notability", from
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Articles for deletion/Mikhail Tank (2nd nomination)
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I will inform Stevenlevine1 about 548:, a site that probably doesn't pass 70: 544:-story about Guinness record from 74:Articles for deletion/Mikhail Tank 24: 285: 1: 330:) 14:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 911:with exactly the same text. 723:This article was created by 685:source than a source in its 58:00:12, 11 August 2011 (UTC) 1067: 1033:20:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC) 1014:03:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 989:00:04, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 968:22:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 947:20:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 923:20:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 890:20:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 859:19:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 834:18:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 801:17:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 775:17:09, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 754:16:57, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 716:16:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 670:15:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 645:14:31, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 513:13:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 488:06:02, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 471:05:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 452:04:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC) 413:20:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 390:20:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 367:20:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 342:14:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 312:11:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 278:08:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 261:05:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 237:02:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 220:01:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC) 697:of hit arising ... often 1043:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 909:another random webpage 903:million sites. 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Mikhail Tank
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