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1213:- The article fails the basic requirements of WP:BIO. Though there is coverage of Gitmo trials in general, there is not significant coverage of this individual himself. There is only one independent secondary source reference (the Huffington Post article) that says anything more about him than simply his name, but he's not the focus of the article. The majority of references listed for him are military documents that do not constitute independent secondary sources. This article clearly violates 936:
explicitly relevant to this person in this article. I actually had to read the article twice to figure out what "crime" he is accused of land himself there, because it is mentioned once in the lede, and then further relevant details about the case are buried near the bottom. In short, it looks like a GB coatrack, propped around a non-notable prisoner that has since been released from the American jail in which he was serving. --
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for the same BLP concerns that have stricken the rest of the Gitmo entries. At the heart of it all, these articles are not fundamentally biographies of people, as we have no real biographical information (aside from information about (or related to) their incarceration)). While their treatment may be
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before. And I have asked for the specific passages my correspondents think they do not fulfill. But, to be very frank, my correspondents have left me sadly disappointed, by not being able to cite those passages. Perhaps you would be so kind as to make the effort to cite those passages where others
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says nothing about requiring media sources. I believe this article fully complies with this and other policies and guidelines. If there is a specific passage in a policy or guideline which you think the article does not comply with I would be very grateful if you would return here, and quote it. I
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You are perfectly free to find the material uninteresting. But I don't understand how you can say the sources aren't about Al Juhani. We have several pages of allegation memos, drafted independently, from first principles, that is about nothing but Al Juhani. And, of course, we have his testimony,
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I disagree with the nominator that material like this turns the wikipedia into "Amnesty International". I already responded to this assertion yesterday, on the nominator's talk page. I pointed out that Amnesty International is a kind of advocacy group, that the material it publishes makes no attempt
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on the basis there will probably be sources there as well. The article is about what he did before GB, and what happened after. I don't myself see what the number of quarterbacks have to do with it, but I dont see how the number of GB prisoners has anything to do with it either. We can accommodate
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verifiable details about the subject beyond the legal proceedings against him. No details of his life are reported beyond the unsourced claim by counter-terrorist units of his date and place of birth. Even on nothing more than biographical grounds, it's terribly deficient. Is this really anything
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I don't know how many prisoners in the US criminal justice system might get temporarily lost for a day. But Al Juhani wasn't lost for a day. He was lost for two years. Not only was he lost. He was released without the OARDEC, the agency with the responsibility to authorize released, realizing he
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Do people read the wikipedia's material on the war on terror? Absolutely. Do readers use the wikipedia's material on individual Guantanamo captives. Absolutely. I get questions from readers about material I have contributed on this topic, both on my talk page, and by email. I see places where
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Most of the article reads like an essay about how unlawful/unfair it is for prisoners to be in GB, and it has more to do with the Tribunal process than Al Juhani. Significant sections of the lede and other paragraphs are dedicated to the questionable legal status/ethical status of GB, which isn't
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Please note, the DoD seems to have completely lost track of him for two years, failing to schedule a review in 2005, and then scheduling a review of his detention -- after he had already been released from detention. You do not regard this as significant? It would be really helpful to me, and I
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His "claim to fame" seems to be mostly that he is a prisoner in Guantanomo, and he's hardly the only person to accomplish that. I question his worldwide and long term notability. After you remove the legal-speak and blatant POV, you would have a two line stub about a prisoner that was eventually
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Frankly, I am puzzled by challenges like this one. They leave me wondering whether some contributors think there should be some kind of unofficial cap on the number of bytes that can be devoted to certain topics. If the wikipedia community wants to put caps on the amount of coverage of certain
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Since 2006 our policy on biographies of living individuals has become a lot firmer, and we have become less tolerant of articles which purport to be biographies but are in fact about something else. I believe this is one such. I think it is fair to say that the detention of political prisoners
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per DGG, Pixelface and others. Also claims there are somehow BLP issues are unconvincing; these are notable people and we have no reason to believe that any of them have a problem with having an article. Indeed, if one takes one POV more publicity makes it more likely that these people will be
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I'll Agree, wikipedia conventionally does not put stock in "other stuff". But, I'd really appreciate learning why you don't consider the info in the allegations memos to be verifiable? Similarly, concerning "the details of his life" -- we know a lot more about a lot of people we have articles
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and we should not be writing faux-biographies to cover essentially generic content such as the fact that no proper independent review process exists for detainees, if only out of practical considerations of redundancy. A quick survey leads me to conclude that most of the articles on individual
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Well, just because you believe Guantanamo is the gold medal of the carceral system doesn't mean it's true, and that isn't really a perfect analogy. But without drawing into question the notability of the prison itself, is this a case where the individual is notable outside this single prison
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Well, thanks for your reply. I am interested in your comments about finding the article hard to read. I'd like to take them into account when improving the article. But I think the deletion policies are pretty clear that perceptions that articles are hard to read are not normally grounds for
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in 2005. It is still pretty sparse, sparser than Al Juhani's. And, like the article on Al Juhani, it is useful nonetheless. Let me suggest that lacking a complete set of the details of someone's life should not be grounds to delete an article on an inventor, or an alleged Osama bin Laden
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really did think the policies both required media coverage, and agreed that the policies should say require media coverage, then the policy should be rewritten, so it says what everyone thinks it says. If simply everyone agreed the that the policy should say the articles should require
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from his CSR Tribunal lists seven allegations. I would be very grateful to read your explanation as to why these should not be considered "details of his life". Is it possible that the authors of the OARDEC memos got it wrong? Sure. But, since the wikipedia's policy on
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is patent nonsense. But I don't dispute that an article that cites good references could be written from a neutral point of view about it. I wouldn't dream of trying to suppress coverage of any policy-compliant material because I, personally, thought the topic was
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wikipedia article needs to have been the subject itself of reliable sources, otherwise it is non-notable. Ok it's not unverifiable, but no journalist etc has considered him personally someone to write an article about. We're not a secondary source- we're a
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notable, but I doubt one in ten thousand could name a handful, if that many, let alone give any pertinent facts about them. Neither does this article; it's full of legal minutiae, much of it not specifically about the subject. I wouldn't call this a
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Almost all of which are Knowledge (XXG) mirrors and conspiracy theorist forums, I don't see a single "Reputable source" for either of them. I'm sure with digging, one could be found - same as ones could be found for al-Juhani if we spoke Arabic.
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because the only coverage of him is part of lists of those in guantanamo, probably there's already a list of them, on which he is placed. He's not notable in and of himself because sources have not been articles about him alone in-depth.
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suggests "usefulness" is not always a good argument for inclusion. But, since this article does fully comply with policy, I would suggest this is one of the instances when usefulness is a good argument for
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Nick, sometimes people agree on the facts, and disagree in the conclusions they draw. But, no offense, you have repeated a couple of misconceptions. The only Guantanamo captive to receive a sentence was
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Ok, minor wording issues aside, my general criticism still applies: is he notable for anything other than this event? If not, then the event article needs more attention, and this article can be deleted.
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whatever we need to. If something should make a large number of individuals notable, we can deal with it as long as we have verifiable information about each of them. In this case we do.
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You confuse me. Every fact that should be referenced is referenced. Every reference in this article is verifiable. Several people have told me that the policies state articles require
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Agreed that the Guantanomo Bay prison and how it functions are notable, but that doesn't mean that each of the 800 prisoners that have spent time there automatically become notable.
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60 and 90 respectively, which aren't awful for folks whose fifteen minutes of fame (if they can be said to have had that many) were before the Internet era. That being said,
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per Bfigura. Articles on arbitrary Gitmo detainees are generally going to fall due to non-notability. I'm seriously concerned that many of these articles are being used as
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The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded.".
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If the individuals in that category have done nothing notable outside of surviving the holocaust, then those articles should be deleted, clearly. --
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would really appreciate it, if you would try to explain why you do not regard this allegation, his disappearance from the record, as significant.
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coverage, then I would agree with deleting this article, until the policies were rewritten. I'd nominate similar articles for deletion myself.
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Please note, he is accused of having been one of Osama bin Laden's bodyguards, something that lead to other captives facing war crimes charges.
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Other challengers seem to be saying that even if the policy doesn't state that articles require media coverage we should treat the policies
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articles like this one are explicitly cited, and instances where I am morally convinced an author used our material without citing it.
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Could you please point out a passage that could be interpreted as npov and rousing anti-GB sentiments in this particular article (cf.
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Even if Muhamad wasn't notable for being an alleged body-guard to Osama Bin Laden, articles on individual detainees is motivated by
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declaration of "significance?" If (allegedly) being bin Laden's bodyguard makes the fellow notable, how can his name have only
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The wikipedia already covers lots of topics I am not interested in, and some I think are patent nonsense. I think the field of
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Similarly, I am not a fan of American football. I didn't play it as a kid, and don't really know the rules. I took a look at
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although the rules required his continued detention to have been reviewed in 2005, the record shows it was not reviewed.
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without trial in the cause fo "freedom" is one of the greater ironies of the 21st Century, but Knowledge (XXG) is not
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I've asked this participant to be specific about which passage(s) triggered their concern over a "blatant POV".
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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about. Marraiges, children, where they went to school, etc. But we do know quite a bit about Al Juhani. The
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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should be redlinked? That's a lot of stub articles for people that may only be notable for a prison sentence.
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released, so the notion that there is a harm in having articles about this individual is hard to understand.
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Let me suggest that the losing track of Al Juhani the record reflects has more in common to the release of
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problem of not including biographical information and only focusing on one event in the person's life.) --
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issue -- there isn't a thing here not on legal record -- but as it stands, the sources are not really
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he did have a Review Board hearing scheduled for 2006 -- a month after he had already been released.
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Perhaps he should be added, then? About half are blue-linked, it seems in this list as a matter of
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No offense, I hope, if I question whether you may have a misconception I have encountered before.
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problem. In addition, as the article seems to be focused on Guantanomo Bay, it is also violating
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Notable in the sense of being "famous", or "popular" - although not irrelevant - is secondary.
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I would appreciate a fuller explanation as to why nominator considers this a "faux-biography".
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Hrm, how many prisoners do you think the United States "loses" a day? What about that is a
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to bring up anti-GB sentiments. Which sentiments I tend to share, but grossly violate
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well covered and documented, that makes the treatment notable, not the individuals.
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explicitly clarifies, in the first paragraph, that notability is not the same as
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they said what "everyone" thinks they say. Well, if it were really true that
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source that is wikipedia summarizes what has been written about the subject.
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And this guy isn't even on that list! Tell me again how he is notable? --
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In addition, how many unique Google hits will you find for somebody like
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climate, merged or deleted, and I believe that is fundamentally right.
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The reasons proffered for his notability aren't legitamite reasons.
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list of Guantanamo Bay detainment camp-related deletion discussions
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per nom, unless a merge target can be found for abridged info.--
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Besides for the failure to meet the notability standard of
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sentence, or is he only notable for this single event? --
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I have read assertions that these kinds of sources fail
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Please don't confuse the captives with convicted felons
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Sandstein
talk
11:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Muhamad Naji Subhi Al Juhani
Articles for deletion/Muhamad Naji Subhi Al Juhani
Articles for deletion/Muhamad Naji Subhi Al Juhani (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Muhamad Naji Subhi Al Juhani (3rd nomination)
Muhamad Naji Subhi Al Juhani
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Amnesty International
WP:BLP
Guy
Help!
14:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Doc
14:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
list of Guantanamo Bay detainment camp-related deletion discussions
Geo Swan

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