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hit Israel all the time, and there's always a flurry of coverage that rarely lasts beyond the original case (I mention these types because we have loads of articles on them when they're completely non-notable), but this may be the first of its kind and even if it isn't it's likely to be an example case in sociology studies and such. –
218::The death is quite recent, and most articles are linking this with the Martin death. Therefore independent notability of this event is questionable. But, most importantly, WP is not the news. However, the death is covered in tons of news sources, just not in great detail and not independently. This one could go either way for me. 241:, I suspect that it will prove to be notable and continue to be discussed in both news and, after a while, in scholarly books on sociology of the USA; among other things, if it's prosecuted as a hate crime it will be the first murder of a Muslim woman that's officially a hate crime in the United States. – 401:
I generally have a very strict view of WP:EVENT and !vote to delete most news-y stuff, because (just as you say) a spike of coverage now doesn't indicate lasting notability, but I do think this one will stay notable because of the uncommon circumstances. Attractive white women go missing and rockets
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I argue that it is notable now. If it isnt recieving the same attention in a few months time then yes I agree with you an AfD should be done again. But unless someone here as a crystal ball to see into the future with the article should be
169: 431:, but I would say that "it might be notable in the future" is not a valid keep reason. That type of logic is an open door policy for every article anyone could ever want to make. They all could be notable in the future. 383:
no, being notable means long term notability as per WP:EVENT. it is in fact too early to predict future notability. You cannot assume media spikes now are notable in future as per
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as per WP:NOTNEWS. we do not create articles in case something is notable in future as argued by keep voters. Every murder creates a spike in media coverage.
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of this event yet. This article can always be re-created if the crime keeps popping up in the media.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Perhaps rather than delete this story, it should be featured. Then maybe it will be notable.
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of this could be. Can be recreated if this is still in the news a few months from now.
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Unless you think every murder, fatal bus crash deserves a WP article.
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Granted it is news, but there is enough news to write an article.
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it is too soon to tell and coverage may indeed drop after a while
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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