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319:, a common name which not only has an extensive disambiguation page on Knowledge, but has at least 41 listings on IMDb, including studio drivers and stagehands. A couple of those 41 Robert Williamses are even notable enough for Knowledge, but even so, none has so far found his way into the disambiguation page, to say nothing of the numerous book, movie and theater characters who were given that name or "Bob" or "Bobby". If Knowledge disambiguation pages are meant to be taken seriously, they must not cram every use of the name in existence, but confine their purpose to non-trivial references within the bounds of existing articles. 176:
It is certainly possible that somebody may search for Myrna Loy via her birth name (and Cary Grant via Archibald Leach for that matter). Given that there are three individuals, although one is of arguable notability, a disambig page makes perfect sense. I see no reason to make the politician the sole
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There are actually at least three targets, and the second actress should not be dismissed as a potential article. Now that this article exists, going to the trouble of deleting it seems pointless. Even if a hatnote were used it should still point to this disambig page.
215:) I agree with the nom, primarily because there are only two potential targets (and a search doesn't reveal any other candidates). This may better satisfy the least surprise principle with a hatnote in the politician's article, which can be moved here. -- 270:
might. Disambiguation pages, however, are another matter. If there were six or seven notable or, at least, marginally notable individuals named "Myrna Williams", it may, perhaps, be less obvious, but with only three names, it is untenable. The
194:. It is a disambiguation page. Clearly there are two notables with this name and there are several others with this name not mentioned, including at least 1 actress. Having a dab page hurts nothing. 117: 132:
figure who had been in public office on the state and local level between 1984 and 2006. The other two names on the disambiguation page are of a top movie star of the past,
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already in possession of the name, the redirect should not be forced with this disambiguation page—it should be simply abandoned. Finally, the matter of one
353:, although it is a minor political figure, it does seem to fall within the guidelines for notability. I would suggest someone clean up the article a bit.-- 90: 85: 94: 305:
and included to (slightly) pad the names on the disambiguation page. This name appears 33rd down on the cast list of the 1985 film
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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This nomination is for the disambiguation page entitled "Myrna Williams". There is only one (arguably) notable
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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page should be moved to "Myrna Williams" and the "Myrna Williams (disambiguation)" page deleted
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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target, especially as they do not themselves seem to have more than minor notability.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
302: 107: 103: 99: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 377:). No further edits should be made to this page. 281:'s birth name might have been able to receive a 8: 136:, whose birth name was Myrna Williams, and 262:, I do not question the existence of the 336:Diambig pages are "cheap" and helpful. 7: 24: 311:and...nowhere else. Staying with 174:Keep as the current disambig page 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 360:07:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 266:biographical entry, although 150:by entering his birth name, " 60:10:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC) 346:12:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 329:10:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 243:03:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC) 224:07:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC) 204:23:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC) 187:22:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC) 168:22:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC) 295:Myrna Williams (politician) 264:Myrna Williams (politician) 156:Myrna Williams (politician) 126:Myrna Williams (politician) 394: 299:Myrna Williams "(actress)" 370:Please do not modify it. 138:Myrna Williams (actress) 32:Please do not modify it. 235:Random Fixer Of Things 179:Random Fixer Of Things 211:, in this case (not 130:Clark County, Nevada 283:William Henry Pratt 313:Williams (surname) 301:, a name found on 285:-like redirect to 327: 308:The Toxic Avenger 252:Nomination update 166: 143:The Toxic Avenger 385: 372: 323: 258:. As an article 162: 115: 97: 34: 393: 392: 388: 387: 386: 384: 383: 382: 381: 375:deletion review 368: 317:Robert Williams 274:Trivial Pursuit 213:Archibald Leach 152:Archibald Leach 88: 72: 69: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 391: 389: 380: 379: 363: 362: 348: 331: 321:—Roman Spinner 248: 247: 246: 245: 227: 226: 206: 189: 160:—Roman Spinner 122: 121: 74:Myrna Williams 68: 66:Myrna Williams 63: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 390: 378: 376: 371: 365: 364: 361: 358: 356: 352: 349: 347: 343: 339: 335: 332: 330: 326: 322: 318: 314: 310: 309: 304: 300: 296: 292: 291:William Pratt 288: 287:Boris Karloff 284: 280: 276: 275: 269: 265: 261: 257: 253: 250: 249: 244: 240: 236: 231: 230: 229: 228: 225: 222: 218: 214: 210: 207: 205: 201: 197: 193: 190: 188: 184: 180: 175: 172: 171: 170: 169: 165: 161: 157: 153: 149: 145: 144: 139: 135: 131: 127: 119: 113: 109: 105: 101: 96: 92: 87: 83: 79: 75: 71: 70: 67: 64: 62: 61: 58: 57: 53: 52: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 369: 366: 350: 333: 306: 293:), but with 272: 268:deletionists 260:inclusionist 251: 208: 191: 173: 141: 123: 55: 50: 45: 43: 31: 28: 196:Vegaswikian 256:notability 148:Cary Grant 279:Myrna Loy 277:entry on 134:Myrna Loy 355:Sallicio 217:Dhartung 118:View log 91:protect 86:history 338:Fosnez 325:(talk) 209:Delete 164:(talk) 95:delete 112:views 104:watch 100:links 16:< 351:Keep 342:talk 334:Keep 303:IMDb 239:talk 221:Talk 200:talk 192:Keep 183:talk 128:, a 108:logs 82:talk 78:edit 51:Neıl 46:keep 116:– ( 344:) 241:) 219:| 202:) 185:) 110:| 106:| 102:| 98:| 93:| 89:| 84:| 80:| 48:. 340:( 237:( 198:( 181:( 120:) 114:) 76:( 56:☎

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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Myrna Williams
Myrna Williams
edit
talk
history
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links
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logs
views
View log
Myrna Williams (politician)
Clark County, Nevada
Myrna Loy
Myrna Williams (actress)
The Toxic Avenger
Cary Grant
Archibald Leach
Myrna Williams (politician)
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22:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Random Fixer Of Things
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