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323:- useful list. For once, we actually have a list that's useful, encyclopedic, and presents pertinent information. At the risk of OTHERSTUFFEXISTS links being thrown at me, I can't imagine for the life of me how a list of national casualties in one of the most historic events in modern history can't be encyclopedic, while 405:
Um, no, there is no "onus" on the keep or the merge or the delete people here. Each is equally obligated to present their arguments, based on established Wiki policy and guidelines. So far, you have cited "it is useful" and "other lists which I think are trivial also exist" as reasons to keep, both
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I don't think anyone did a lot of research to put these numbers together. There are lots of 9/11 articles that *:mention where the victims came from. "Argentina 4, Australia 11, Bangladesh 6..." Just some cold statistics here. I remember that one of the five guys contained in "Peru - 5" was a
490:. This information isn't purely trivial (this data, for instance, could help illustrate the motivations for varied reactions and military support from other countries after the 9/11 attacks), yet it doesn't warrant it's own article (this list is no more important than any host of other lists). 172: 469:
or merge as encyclopedias are repositories of information and this attack is historically significance; thus, information about it is something that researchers will look into. Casualty statistics and lists are handy for researchers. Sinceerely,
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No, it should not, if I'm pointing out that if we have any lists at all, this is a proper one. I could just as easily point to IDONTLIKEIT for other people. As for your argument, WP might not be a list of information, but it has
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kitchen worker who had his 19th birthday on September 11, 2001. And what is he now? He's a "Peru 5". A similar article called "List of American casualties by state" would be just as pointless (Alabama-17, Alaska-3, etc.)...
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Although some of this is considered notable, it might not be considered notable enough to appear in a encyclopedia. If it is not deleted, at the very least, it should be merged into the main 9/11 page.
430:- this list is useful and important, the political implications are the only thing I can see driving this call for deletion, rather than "trash". This is worthy of a page of its own, and I support it. 78: 502:, no merge. I'm with Alkivar here. This article is really just a list, and not a particulary necessary list. There isn't any use for this information in any of the other 9/11 articles. 70: 62: 243:
per above, it is only just numbers which can be easily added, maybe arrenged the organisation of that new section so it would not increase significantly more the length of the article.--
114: 48:. Some opinions labeled "delete" in fact advocate "merge" (and hence "keep" for AfD purposes), while others have no serious rationale ("pathetic trash"). Yet more note that 147:? In any case, someone's done a lot of research to put these numbers together so I don't think it should be deleted, but unless this can be expanded to be a real article ( 533: 521: 494: 478: 461: 434: 410: 396: 378: 361: 348: 335: 315: 293: 277: 251: 218: 205: 179: 166: 126: 56: 328: 155: 151: 370:"OTHERSTUFFEXISTS" can and should be thrown at you. If you object to the Naruto thing then go file an AfD. It has no bearing as to whether or not 224: 188: 515: 17: 472: 548: 36: 487: 211: 159: 509: 354: 547:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Maybe, but it's just a table, and would be rather informative in there. We can always split that one a bit.
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information, and the onus is on your to prove that this list is not worthy of encyclopedic inclusion.
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First, I'm surprised no one's gotten upset about the use of the word "American" here (see e.g.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Proving my point, I didn't have to even search for this one. Found it on vandal patrol:
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of which are generally cited as flawed/faulty reasonings in an AfD discussion.
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wow a list of numbers... gimme a break... this is pathetic trash.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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List of Naruto characters that carry a sword... blah blah blah
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Sandstein
06:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks
Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks
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Davnel03
18:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Talk:American
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List of tornado-related deaths at schools
Casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks
September 11, 2001 attacks#Fatalities
Ewlyahoocom
19:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 Attacks
Ewlyahoocom
19:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry

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