611:: {{future album}} is for notable, verifiable music albums that haven't been recorded yet but have received media coverage outside of the band's own announcement that "we're doing some album named x". Essentially, what this amounts to is "Hey guys, we started an album. It's gonna be called Nostradamus." That doesn't meet
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You miss the point. All the info is still coming from interviews and quotes from your publicist and friends and that is even less relevant and verifiable then if they were coming from the artist themself. Instead of the artist saying "Hey guys, we started an album. It's gonna be called
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By saying it was "funny" and implying that I should have tagged it. The album policy has been like that since at least last summer. The question is not how is it not notable but how is it notable. I'm sure once it's out there will be plenty of media attention to assert notability but it's a little to
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I only see one (improperly cited) reference, and that's an interview with the guitarist where he says they've recorded a bunch of stuff for an upcoming album. There's no source showing it's actually scheduled for release. Also, I don't see any notability claimed in the article; remember—notability is
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How did I not assume good faith, I just thought it was odd and counterproductive to put something up for deletion rather than attempt to improve it first. The policy on albums didn't used to be worded this way which is now far to subjective, but even as it stands how is this particular future album
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Yes when it comes to albums notability is generally inherited if the artist themselves are notable. Just because the article doesn't have a lot of sources right now does nothing to diminish it's notability, which is why I tagged it as unrefferenced to see if we can help get some on here. Funny that
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You know what I mean, Metallica and Eminem are much more popular than Judas Priest with mainstream audiences so of course there is going to be more media coverage on their upcoming albums. That however does not make this album any less notable to this
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It already is notable as it is a notable future album by a notable band, and it is not crystal balling as it has been reported by media and it is certain to take place. Did you guys even read the policies you are
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