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his notability can be established. The problem is that the article as it stands doesn't make any claim to notability; all it says is that he was a man who lived and died, wrote a few apparently obscure publications, and had some apparently non-notable children. What exactly is his "claim to fame"?
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The two assertions are the D.D.; this was quite unusual, and beyond what most ministers had (or have today)., and the 5 printed sermons, when most ministers did not publish any (and do not do so today either). There will be many such articles to remove who do not have such
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The fact that he has had works published about him establishes his notability. I have access to the JSTOR source (but not the others) and will presently incorporate it into the article (incidentally, that article
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