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549:, “Neverness, David Zindell” by Faren Miller, (br) Locus v21:3 No.326 Mar 1988, “The Broken God, David Zindell” by Faren Miller, (br) Locus v31:3 No.392 Sep 1993, “The Wild, David Zindell” by Faren Miller, (br) Locus v37:1 No.426 Jul 1996, “War in Heaven, David Zindell” by Faren Miller, (br) Locus v40:1 No.444 Jan 1998, “David Zindell’s Neverness” by Julian R. Bliss, (br) Overspace #10 1990, 465:
is the appropriate guideline. The Orson Scott Card review would be a very useful factor to demonstrate its notability - if you have a link to it, or a reference to the magazine it appeared in, you should add it to the article. The same goes for the other books, if similar references are available.
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all. Card's reference would have to be in a published review -- what people let publishers say on ads and on book jackets is not a RS for anything. I support articles including reasonable plot summaries, or even primarily devoted to reasonable length plot summaries, but the absurdly detailed plot
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asserting "I wish I would have written this book," etc. Maybe we can accept that as proclaimed relevance from other sources (Card) already considered relevant here? /me is new to the deletion defense process. --
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summary in the main article here is what gave plot summaries a bad name. The articles about individual characters are even less justified than the main article.
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Yet another book with no ascertion of notability. Did it get close to winning anything? Anything else that could ascertain notability?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
406:. No assertion of notability, although A7 isn't applicable to books. Not 100% sure that the author himself ( 128: 58: 623: 594: 586:
but please do make sure the print refs (Locus et al) hit the article, too, not just the AfD debate.
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all for lack of notability. The neverness article is just plot summary, which is a violation of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I'm afraid that fansites and fanzines don't count as reliable sources (see
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I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
507:. Somebody's personal site is not a notable reference 365: 361: 357: 319: 315: 311: 273: 269: 265: 227: 223: 219: 181: 177: 173: 110: 106: 102: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 428:Old website that could be used to show notability. 641:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 487:. :) Thank you for the clarifications. -- 382:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Vild 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 614:doesn't get one article per book. 24: 434:Relevant quotations from the book 1: 286:April Colonial Intelligence 658: 604:A Requiem for Homo Sapiens 541:A Requiem for Homo Sapiens 414:if the issue were raised. 332:A Requiem for Homo Sapiens 49:A Requiem for Homo Sapiens 624:00:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) 595:06:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC) 579:15:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 563:09:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 532:00:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC) 492:03:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC) 394:03:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC) 380:: see related discussion 63:16:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC) 634:Please do not modify it. 602:all other articles into 512:21:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 475:20:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 458:19:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 419:18:02, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 136:15:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 436:. The precursor to 402:per nom. All fail 426:. Some resources: 131:Blood Red Sandman 649: 636: 592: 450:Orson Scott Card 373: 355: 327: 309: 281: 263: 235: 217: 189: 171: 133: 118: 100: 34: 657: 656: 652: 651: 650: 648: 647: 646: 645: 639:deletion review 632: 612:Vorkosigan Saga 588: 346: 330: 300: 284: 254: 238: 208: 192: 162: 146: 129: 91: 75: 72: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 655: 653: 644: 643: 627: 626: 597: 581: 565: 534: 514: 498: 497: 496: 495: 494: 421: 375: 374: 328: 282: 236: 190: 143: 142: 125: 124: 71: 66: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 654: 642: 640: 635: 629: 628: 625: 621: 617: 613: 609: 605: 601: 598: 596: 593: 591: 585: 582: 580: 577: 573: 569: 566: 564: 561: 557: 554: 551: 548: 545: 542: 538: 535: 533: 529: 525: 524: 518: 515: 513: 510: 506: 502: 499: 493: 490: 486: 482: 478: 477: 476: 473: 469: 464: 461: 460: 459: 456: 451: 447: 443: 439: 435: 432: 429: 425: 422: 420: 417: 413: 410:) would pass 409: 408:David Zindell 405: 401: 398: 397: 396: 395: 391: 387: 383: 379: 371: 367: 363: 359: 354: 350: 345: 341: 337: 333: 329: 325: 321: 317: 313: 308: 304: 299: 295: 291: 287: 283: 279: 275: 271: 267: 262: 258: 253: 249: 245: 241: 237: 233: 229: 225: 221: 216: 212: 207: 203: 199: 195: 191: 187: 183: 179: 175: 170: 166: 161: 157: 153: 149: 145: 144: 140: 139: 138: 137: 134: 132: 122: 116: 112: 108: 104: 99: 95: 90: 86: 82: 78: 74: 73: 70: 67: 65: 64: 61: 60: 56: 52: 51: 50: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 633: 630: 599: 589: 583: 567: 536: 521: 516: 500: 480: 423: 399: 377: 376: 130: 126: 57: 47: 45: 43: 31: 28: 610:. Even the 240:Silicon God 194:Ede the God 46:Merge into 400:Delete All 558:, etc... 537:Merge all 438:Neverness 77:Neverness 69:Neverness 576:Burzmali 442:Shanidar 121:View log 590:MrZaius 489:kanzure 472:Tevildo 455:kanzure 431:Review. 416:Tevildo 349:protect 344:history 303:protect 298:history 257:protect 252:history 211:protect 206:history 165:protect 160:history 94:protect 89:history 616:Tualha 608:JulesH 572:JulesH 560:JulesH 517:Delete 505:WP:NOT 501:Delete 485:JulesH 412:WP:BIO 386:Tualha 353:delete 307:delete 261:delete 215:delete 169:delete 98:delete 59:tizzle 600:Merge 584:Merge 568:Merge 509:Corpx 481:Merge 468:WP:RS 463:WP:BK 404:WP:BK 370:views 362:watch 358:links 324:views 316:watch 312:links 278:views 270:watch 266:links 232:views 224:watch 220:links 186:views 178:watch 174:links 115:views 107:watch 103:links 55:Scien 16:< 620:Talk 606:per 570:per 528:talk 483:per 424:Keep 390:Talk 378:Note 366:logs 340:talk 336:edit 320:logs 294:talk 290:edit 274:logs 248:talk 244:edit 228:logs 202:talk 198:edit 182:logs 156:talk 152:edit 111:logs 85:talk 81:edit 53:. — 539:to 523:DGG 446:src 440:, " 119:– ( 622:) 574:. 555:, 552:, 530:) 392:) 384:. 368:| 364:| 360:| 356:| 351:| 347:| 342:| 338:| 322:| 318:| 314:| 310:| 305:| 301:| 296:| 292:| 276:| 272:| 268:| 264:| 259:| 255:| 250:| 246:| 230:| 226:| 222:| 218:| 213:| 209:| 204:| 200:| 184:| 180:| 176:| 172:| 167:| 163:| 158:| 154:| 113:| 109:| 105:| 101:| 96:| 92:| 87:| 83:| 618:( 526:( 479:' 388:( 372:) 334:( 326:) 288:( 280:) 242:( 234:) 196:( 188:) 150:( 123:) 117:) 79:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
A Requiem for Homo Sapiens
Scien
tizzle
16:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Neverness
Neverness
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history
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links
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View log
Blood Red Sandman
15:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Order of Mystic Mathematicians and Other Seekers of the Ineffable Flame
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talk
history
protect
delete
links
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logs
views

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