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specifically the New Adult genre (I'm a published fiction writer with a New Adult book releasing this year). New Adult was not created by publishers, and it is not a marketing ploy any more than any genre is a marketing ploy. Genres exist so that readers know the parameters of the books they are buying, and in the old days of brick and mortar bookstores, publishers knew how to shelve books. New Adult is not adult fiction in that it deals specifically with issues unique to the 18-25 age group. It is not YA fiction for the same reason. While some people have referred to it (very erroneously) as "sexed up YA," that is simply not accurate. The higher levels of sexual activity in New Adult books stem from the fact that sexuality and sexual relationships are a crucial factor in the lives of most 18-25 year olds. The New Adult genre has been discussed in the New York Times, USA Today, NBC News and is a searchable category for books on Amazon. St. Martin's Press was the first entity to use the term "New Adult" in a special call they held. While the special call never resulted in much, and St. Martin's has not been a major contributor to the development of the genre, it is highly appropriate that they be listed in the article and given credit for originating the term. New Adult is in fact the first digital era genre, developed from the ground up in a reader-driven push rather than a publisher-driven one. As such, it has been heavily influenced by self publishing authors. It is very important to note that while the term "New Adult" was coined by a publisher, the genre itself is actually only now reaching the mainstream presses. This is a very unique factor that separates New Adult as a grassroots, digital era genre. Numerous books categorized as New Adult have made the NYT and USAT bestseller lists, including
Jennifer L. Armentrout's Wait For You which hit #1 on the NYT list just a few weeks ago. As a side note, I have recently written an article on the history and development of New Adult fiction for InD'tale magazine. The article will be published next week along with an interview with a New York Times Bestselling New Adult author. I'd be happy to provide the link to that article when it is published. I think it is important that anyone assessing the information on New Adult be someone who is very well acquainted with the publishing industry and fiction genres rather than someone who is merely familiar with Knowledge's rules and regulations.
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established category. As you can see from the publications that Malke2010 has provided you with. The information just needs to be added. This will take a moment, but it can be done if you allow the users to do so. This category is credible and many publishers acknowledge this as again stated in several of the articles Malke2010. If you would like I can provide more sources. The main New York publishers of New Adult or NA as it is sometimes called by the readership has been Simon and
Schuster, St. Martin's Press, Hachette, and Random House. Many have digital lines for publication of the category. Cite discusses Simon and Schuster "new adult" line. Cite discusses Random House's new adult line known as "Flirt" More discussion of the new line here And I believe you've already seen that St. Martin's Press acknowledges NA so I will not list. This discusses Grand Central Publishing (Hachette imprint) expanding to New Adult.
1583:: Seeing as someone has now explained why this wiki was flagged let me counteract a say why the wiki does not fulfill those criteria and should therefore not be deleted. It is hardly a neologism as it is now a widly used term with amazon and goodreads deeming it a catgory and publishers calling books NA in press releases. Most people in the book industry have heard the term even if they dont understand the catagory. As for reliable sources the article includes a wide range of legitamate sources including many newspapers and even USA Today. This also makes all the information verifiable. A balanced view is kept including all the under-researched nonsense that was written when the catagory first started to appear (NA is not sexed up YA and therefore this wiki should certainly not be merged with YA. The books are not aimed at and are not suitable for under 18's)
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Press did not coin the phrase or use this as a marketing ploy. They knew about this genre. But agents and publishers have always rejected them. But then Amazon came along because they knew there were lots of people who couldn't get an agent/publisher and wanted to get published anyway. That apparently included authors with books about young people in college falling in love and having sex. St. Martin's Press wanted some manuscripts so they held a contest. They didn't invent anything except a name for themselves among these authors. The article needs to develop, but it's not there as a promotional or advertising article. And if we delete this article, Knowledge will be the only site that doesn't have anything about this legitimate genre.
1467:: There is something highly questionable about this AfD. Those opposing are doing so with an inordinate amount of energy considering the topic and they are doing it without any legitimate Knowledge policy to show why this article should be deleted. Instead, two editors here, Stalwart and Ansh666, are repeatedly accusing the editors who want to keep the article with canvassing off Knowledge and socking. Yet they haven't shown any proof of that. Nor have they shown any Knowledge policy that this article violates which would justify deleting it. Not one policy. Orangemike didn't show any policy that is being violated when he nominated the article. Something is wrong here. This appears to be a highly questionable AfD.
407:. There has been quite a bit of coverage for the genre, but so far it's not really that distinguished or covered enough from the YA genre to really merit a separate entry at this point in time. Will it eventually get to that point? Yes, if the coverage so far is any indication. However, we have to go by what we have in RS at this point in time and not by what might be. It might end up dropping off the radar entirely, after all. I propose merging the information in the article to the subsection I've created in YA fiction. If/when it gets more info, we can always un-redirect. As a note, I again want to say that I've dramatically reduced the article from its previous state, which was very OR-ish.
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me of some bizarre, so-far-undeclared hatred for a genre I've never heard of won't bother me much. You need to relax and actually have a read of some of the stuff I've posted before firing off an angry half-response responding to things I haven't raised (like sock-puppets, which I never suggested). Just relax mate, it's just
Knowledge. But the hysterics are doing more damage to your cause than anything I could add. I'll happily demonstrate I have no real interest in this by walking away. I'm done.
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Guardian (and most others) suggest. I don't even strongly oppose keeping it, but if we do, I can't see the resulting article (again, based on what we can
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publishing house, with editors, and cover artists and everything...even owned by a great big media corp. And, not that it's any of your business, but in 1984 I was a junior in high school, so I'm also not anywhere near as young as you indicate you think I am, not that my age should have any bearing on my knowledge of this subject, nor on my worthiness to contribute to this forum.
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not just a marketing tool by one publishers. Merging the wiki page with Young Adult would be damaging to the catagory. St. Martins press though they tried to create this catagory they actually failed. The term they invented has just been widely used by others, they actually have little to do with the catagory. It is a very large catagory now and has articles in USA today
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published by Writer’s Digest Books in 2014. This book for writers will be a hands-on guide featuring essential information, steps, and techniques to guide writers in creating engaging stories featuring eighteen- to twenty-six-year-old protagonists against the backdrop of the emerging adult experience."
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I posted a link above to at least one off-wiki discussion about it, but that's not the point. I couldn't care less if people want to talk about it away from this discussion and even WP has off-WP IRC channels. I have no skin in this game and I'm not (ever) going to get emotional about it, so accusing
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have an industry background and, combined with their understanding of WP policy, have commented here on that basis. You are not required to disclose it but it might be helpful to go back to whoever is encouraging people to come here and "vote" (on
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New Adult should be a seperate page as it is not a branch of YA and therefore should not be associated with it. It is a fully seperate catagory of its own and people calling it YA with sex are those who didn't understand the catagory when it was first formed. It is a catagory in its own right and is
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to back that up. You haven't shown otherwise. In fact, no one supporting a deletion has shown what
Knowledge policy this article violates. Not one of you. And to the editor whose edit summary says he suspects socking/meat puppets, please go and get a Checkuser. I for one, live in Long Beach, CA, so
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Basically, I wanted to reinforce that the information is out there to be added to the wiki and make it cleaner. We just have to be given time to do so. Also, I do not advise merging NA to the young adult wiki. Seeing as how the new adult books in bookstores feature 18+ aged characters (legal aged)
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I'm not sure about this...I literally had NEVER heard of the genre until today. I'm 19 years old and always wondered where I fit...am I a teen or adult? This blended over into my reading and I've always wondered where to go to find books that fit my age range because I don't relate to older adult
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Knowledge, there is this: "Coming Soon : Writing the New Adult Novel: How to Write and Sell ‘New Adult’ Fiction, to be
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No, that's not evidence. Show us the evidence. It sounds more like you don't have a policy to point to so you divert attention with this off wiki canvassing scheme. All right, let's see it. Show us the blog, or the
Facebook page. You're making yourself sound so knowledgeable about these matters.
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I agree very much with user Malke2010. I believe the content is underdeveloped. With cleaning and additions, the page will not read as neologism because it is indeed not. As I understand Knowledge is to be used as a community forum to build credible information on an topic. New adult is an
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readers to learn more about a genre that is only increasing in notoriety. There is an excessive amount of information both showing the relevance and individuality of the category from other categories/genres. This entire discussion seems to be an exercise in administrivia.
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and are placed in the General Fiction section of most bookstores such as Barnes and Noble, placing the information there would be vastly inaccurate and very confusing for the average wiki user looking for credible information about the category itself.
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