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this area, his inclusion relegates other media to single sentences. And remember, the anime wasn't even the first release. It was the manga which ran for 18 years. Current productions are the Rebuild series which reimagines the events of the anime. All arguments about "views" are strawman arguments because the anime gets more viewers in some days then the topic level page, but the Rebuild and other articles get tens of thousands of views as well, with 180,000+ views on are ailing Rebuild section alone. This deletion simply is destructive and limiting. Our readers and their comprehension of the subject is paramount to Knowledge's success as a viable source of information - let's not purposely make the confusing topic even more confusing to them by throwing up barriers to accessing topic-level information about what Evangelion is, what it contains and why it is important as a whole.
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discussed separately. Franchise pages have their place when there are so many different things to discuss. This is barely the case with Evangelion, where the anime spawned everything that came after and everything that has been released is a derivation of the original TV series with slight changes to character interpretation or some events (the manga which has been published on and off for the past 25 years and technically before the anime and the recent film quadrilogy examples of such).
299:. It's "no" and not "keep" because it is about the whole reasoning above. While I understand Ryulong reasoning, the "glorified disambiguation page" is instead massively useful for readers, and diluting the information in the "(anime)" page would be detrimental both to the page (bloating it), and to the readers (who would have to go there to find all the spawned stuff). Also: that all of that spawned from the anime is not a reason to include it in the anime article, just like we don't put 228:. While some of the editors of the WikiProject agreed and thought it would be a good idea, a group of editors (including one who personally does not see eye to eye with me over a similar dispute on another article) have vociferously opposed as they feel the page has its necessity as the anime apparently does not qualify as 367:
a lot of content and we cannot even fully grasp the books and movies released - many are not even related to the anime. The anime page should not be the main page because it is such a disservice to the readers and so confusing - and a small disamb will do nothing. Given Ryulong's previous action in
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manga spin off from the video game. The completely unrelated pachi-type games (which are not casino games, but are on handhelds...). The numerous radio dramas, line of mecha and other toys... even the cultural impact based on this really convoluted set of materials. Let's not forget we are actually
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as their title is one thing, the fact that a manga, an anime, and some video games all use the title. Other NGE works include other video games which are related to their own canon, the Rebirth Death, Death2, End of Evangelion, the tetralogy Rebuild movies, the novel, the other mangas including a
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In addition, none of the sources in the article reference that the franchise is something that even exists. Yes, there are multiple media adaptations, but they are all derivations of the original television series and should be discussed within the context of that rather than having everything
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As this is such a high profile topic, I must emphasize that I acknowledge that "Neon Genesis Evangelion" is notable. That is not the reason for this AFD. This has to do with properly restructuring several articles when a WikiProject described by those who have opposed as
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agree with my proposal. The insular nature of this group simply means that nothing will properly get done, so the wider audience of articles for deletion is needed to gauge what should be done.
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is not the place to discuss such a restructuring. Do this at the WikiProject or an RFC or something, and then request the help of an Admin if deletion is necessary in the consensus that forms.
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the "(anime)" page received in the same time period, suggesting that so many people just type in "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and then hop on over to the anime page in the dab link.
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should be at this title instead, and a bulk of the current article should be incorporated into the "(anime)" page instead of having a glorified disambiguation page. —
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that the project coordinates a massive restructuring of the pages such that the current "franchise page" is merged into
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Six years ago, the page located at this title was about the animated series currently located at
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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To summarize, the franchise/top level/topic level/whatever format currently used at
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anymore. Page view data shows that over the last 90 days this article had
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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