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388:(which despite a Census Bureau definition is widely used in ways that differ from that definition, as the page points out). I don't see that as a problem though. Precise definitions are the exception rather than the rule in regional geography. The page can describe differing definitions. Also, I can't believe there's a lack of sources that don't just mention the region in passing. As Arxiloxos pointed out there are hundreds of sources on Google Books alone, many of which are not previewable (eg, 335:; the consensus there was that such definitional uncertainties are inevitable, but this is not a reason to delete an article about a well-recognized region. The same is true here. As already mentioned in the article, this region is recognized by the National Weather Service 341: 339: 249:
may not encompass the Niagara Frontier in its entirety, depending on how each region is defined. Without a useful or obvious redirect target, it's better to just delete the article and let the encyclopedia's search function take over.
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the Niagara Frontier itself normally fail to define the area in a way that is useful to us. And even if there are sources that define the area adequately, it's likely that such sources would each define the region
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I don't enjoy recommending this course of action, but I think it's the only one available given the dearth of clear definition and reliable sources for that definition.
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First, let me make clear that the Niagara Frontier is a notable topic. The problem is that at this time an article is not sustainable or maintainable.
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None of the evidence you've presented contradicts anything I said. We've got a crapton of references without any clear and consensus definition.
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does not mention it, probably because it's so poorly defined. Some sources indicate the frontier extends as far as Toledo, Ohio!
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I have searched for additional sources, and the vast majority merely mention the region in passing. Even those sources that are
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That's an impossibly high bar to have passed. I haven't found any sources that can reasonably claim to be about the region
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The article appears to be widely linked, but in fact that's just an artifact of its presence in
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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per nominator's first sentence: "clear that the Niagara Frontier is a notable topic".
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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