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on child pornography or necrophillia or beastiality be removed because it might give people ideas??? NO! At the end of the day, there are people who can genuinely use this information in an educational way, + wikipedia does not show the photo's AND should not link to them. finally, wikipedia is an encyclopedia based website (duh i know), but an encyclopedia is supposed to be nonbiased, so long as the page stays relevant and does not include links to picture and respectful then keep it.
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for her accident, the photographs and the lawsuit, instead of about her (a non-notable teenage girl who died in a tragic accident). BLP may be taken into consideration given that it's an ongoing legal case involving the family etcetera, but if the case leads to a change in the law I believe it may be
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I created this article myself a few months ago. I believe some people here may know about this story - basically, a girl in California who died in a car crash, then photos of her fatal accident were leaked to the internet, resulting in a legal case, which may yet lead to a change in the law. It meets
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Opinion only, will not pretend I know rules of wikipedia, would just like to give my two cents. This article lists an important controversy in various factors -leaking documents, about Nikki etc. Knowledge (XXG) is also not responsible for the actions of the users of their website. Should an article
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was created for. The only possible justification for this article, aside from the brief media coverage, is that it provides a route to the real story and the tragic experience of the family for the 99% of people who only saw the gruesome photos (and I'm not looking now, but I think even Snopes omits
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precludes its applicability in almost all cases. Every event can be subdivided into multiple events. Take for example this case: The question of druge in her system is another "event", the act of forwarding the pictured is another "event", and the posting of the pics online is another "event.") The
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verifiability at the basic level, being covered by several U.S. news sources, although it doesn't seem to have reached an international level of coverage (for example, I have no evidence whatsoever that the story was ever covered in the U.K. media). Also, it may fail
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That might be a matter of perception. CHP has formally taken responsibility for the photos; the issue is whether legal liability flows from that. And even if CHP is totally vindicated, the written record of the debate over this will outlive us all.
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article. I feel if that were the case, it would be undue weight, of the importance of the case. I think we are on the same side – saying the same thing but I am talking Philly and you are using proper English :-).
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does not apply because there were three events - the crash, the pictures being taken, and the lawsuit. These events and the young woman are notable and many sources exist (as shown on the page itself)
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I could endorse a merger, too, if consensus goes that way. It probably deserves no more than a sentence or two. Also, we don't have an article for the Alton Parkway, where it happened. --
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point is, WP's policy is to avoid bios of everyone who got an above average fifteen minutes of fame. If the said person was involved in a notable event than -
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genuinely encyclopedic enough, but at the moment, I'm not totally sure and have different feelings now than to when I created the article.
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Haha... yes, it sounds like we are. I agree on the undue weight - a Cliffs-Notes of the article would certainly strike me as adequate.
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I don't think that anyone here has asserted that the article be deleted because it will give people bad ideas regarding the pics. --
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It seems to be at least two events, the death and the subsequent legal action on an Internet related litigation. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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If we don't merge with CHP, I can get behind this as an equally appropriate (and easier) solution.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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doesn't require that the event be in actuality one event. (As an aside, your understaning of
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has no liability in the case. Yes, I understand the ruling is under appeal. However, if
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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Dude, she is dead, BLP doesn't involve dead people, the "L" is for living. --
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page. What I would be against is a full blown merge of this article into the
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the worst one). That's not encyclopedic, though, and itself leans on
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You guys are taking the abbreviated shortcuts way too literally.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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doesn't require that the subject under discussion be alive and
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has no liability, than no {Controversy}. Call it a
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Nikki Catsouras
Nikki Catsouras
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Notability
notable only for one event
and Knowledge (XXG) is not a news source
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