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330:, You are right, plus the author's name in the "Clan Abba Forum" is the same as the one of the User who created the Wiki article. Even so, the article does not provide inline citations as required by policy, which make it seem as if it is "original reseach". If not then the author should have no problem providing the citations. I mean the big question is where did he/she get all of this information? 392:, I believe in the good-faithed intentions of User:Ukexpat and that he together with the author will solve the inline citation problem. Tell the author to provide that inline citations even if he must cite his work from "Clan Abba Forums", because it would be a pity to delete such an interesting article. I have retracted my "delete" with the hope that he will fix matters. 139:
Interesting family history, but hardly valid for an encyclopedia article. None of these O'Neills have been notable in their own right, and the sources are either blogs or genealogy sites, both of which fail
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if they were used. As for the others: well, they aren't cited, so we can't tell what was used where, but my hunch is that the user who put in that list (
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Comment: I agree that it needs work, but that's not a reason to delete. I'll e-mail the creator if they have it enabled, and do some digging. –
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Damn it is a nice article, too nice. It is a case of plagiarism. This article was pasted from here:
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have received scholarly attention - this is far more likely to be simply a genealogical project. -
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If you're referring to the "sources" list, six of those are archival sources and this violate
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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A large number of sources which are neither blogs nor geneology sites are listed.
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The article may be interesting, but citing a forum would of course be violating
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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which has the following copyright: Copyright ©2000 - 2009.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
MBisanz
05:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
O'Neills of Puerto Rico
Articles for deletion/O'Neills of Puerto Rico
O'Neills of Puerto Rico
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:RS
Irish immigration to Puerto Rico
Biruitorul
06:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
list of Puerto Rico-related deletion discussions
the wub
"?!"
10:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
here
J.Mundo
talk
15:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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