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Reuni diadakan bersama dengan teman semasa
Boediono menuntut ilmu di Sekolah Menengah Pertama (SMP) dan Sekolah Menengah Atas (SMA). Acara diselenggarakan di warung soto Pak Tukimin yang menjadi langganan Boediono semasa kecil yang terletak di Jalan Kali Berantas 45, Kota
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made some articles about SMP 1 Blitar during the campaign for the 2009 presidential election. Boediono even visited this school on May 2010, six months after his inauguration as a vice president (
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