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847:-- We do not need articles on individual bus routes; Yes for train and tram lines, becasue they do not easily move, but not for buses. They are essentially unmaintainable, except by the operator, who will have its own website. This sort of thing has come up several times before.
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Sorry, can you please clarify what you mean? None of these articles is a list of bus routes--each of them in fact is a separate bus route. A list of
Singapore bus routes would seem less objectionable (although still totally unencylopedic).
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