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558:. The bronze at the Mediterranean Games is not enough to show notability--she won a bronze despite losing more matches than she won in an event that the FIE doesn't even consider worth rating. I don't see what achievements Oakshade is saying make her notable. I couldn't find any specific notability criteria for fencers, but since I came across this article under a catscan search for martial arts articles, it seems reasonable to look at the martial arts criteria. There we see that being an Olympic participant, world champion, or repeated medalist at a significant event (defined as several dozen competitors from different countries) are grounds for notability. She meets none of these and merely competing at a world championship does not show notability. 533:. These sources are the epitome of routine sports reporting. Let's look at the links provided by Whpq: Article 1 mentions her result on the first day of the world championships "Another Serbian representative in the French capital Smiljka Rodic ranked 112th in competition with 192 participants." Article 2 merely saws she won 2 of her 5 bouts and lost 15-3 in the Mediterranean Games semifinals. Article 3 mentions her only in a list of scheduled matches. Article 4 is the exact same article as article 2, except in Croatian instead of Serbian. Article 5 is another brief article on her performance at the Mediterranean Games. 197:
Non-notable fencer who is currently ranked 130th in the world, coming off of a 45th place finish at the European championships. A bronze at the Mediterranean games does not show notability because it's not considered a major competition. In fact, the international fencing organization awards zero
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I don't know of any notability criteria where notability is based on what country you're from. That might be covered by
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To paraphrase In ictu oculi, I'm assuming those who voted Keep didn't read the links and are unfamiliar with
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Does this mean that all 200+ men in the epee competition are automatically notable? I don't think so.
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Her coverage consists of routine sports reporting and a 60th place finish doesn't seem notable to me.
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Finishing 60th in her division and routine sports coverage do not show notability.
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in Budapest in 2013. Furthermore she has been covered in reliable sources: see
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The subject doesn't seem to be too notable to merit a Knowledge article.
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My previous comment explains why I believe the coverage does not meet
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haven't clicked the links. These are mainstream Serbian newspapers.
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No, it means that for Serbia this female competitor is notable.
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