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independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable. The Skinnie article is due very soon and verifiable, and The Daily Chronicle article IS locatable with subscription to the newspaper. Must the page be deleted before the claim about their inclusion in Skinnie magazine can be verified (this month)? And when the Skinnie article is issued, surely that will be enough to keep the band on wikipedia? --
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First of all... If you follow the fourth reference link, it is quite obvious that the Valley Chronicle article exists. Whether or not you want to pay $ 5.00 to actually view the article is your choice, but your choice does not affect it's existence. Second, I have already acknowleged that the Skinnie
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page, is that: "A musician or ensemble may be notable if it meets AT LEAST ONE of the following criteria." Sober Spike meets the first requirement listed on the page, which is: 1.Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works (Skinnie Magazine and The Daily Chronicle) whose source is
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I think this debate should just be closed, and the tag for deletion removed. If we're going to be fair in reaching a consensus, then my argument will prevail. Sober Spike, though just barely, is notable enough to be on wikipedia... That is if we're following the criteria word for word rather than
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OK, here's the deal. There is no significant coverage IN the article so post the Daily Chronicle source and add content from it with a ref tag if it is offline so that we know that it actually exists. Second, the second article doesn't exist. Third, most users consider multiple 3 or more. Two is
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The Merriam Webster dictionary definition of the word "multiple" is: "consisting of, including, or involving more than one." Two is more than one. Therefore, two sources should be considered multiple sources. And if you read my last post thoroughly, you will find the answers to those questions.
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page does it say that it cannot be local. It says: "This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media." I would say that the article falls under a published newspaper article.
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article does not yet exist. Third, it does not matter what most users consider multiple to be. Multiple MEANS more than one. I'm sure wikipedia goes by what a word actually means, and not what "most users" wrongly consider.
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An ordinary list about bands in a town would be trivial. It's the list that the band is in. I wouldn't consider a list of the Top 100 bands in all of Southern California trivial.
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Look up couple in the dictionary. Also, the Valley Chronicle is local so that doesn't show notability. And thanks very much for calling me a dick.
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But we're not talking about a couple, we're talking about multiple. I'm pretty sure two words can mean the same thing. And nowhere in the
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having your name in a list (which is what the skinnie thing is) is not being the subject of a non-trivial published work.
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Yes, after applying to be in a competition they were, of the ~300 who competed, in the top 1/3. nothing special.
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Except that is not what the list is. I'ts a list of 100 of the independent bands that applied to be on the list.
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a quote from Skinnie Magazine - "some 500 applicants dropped their name in the hat for a chance to participate"
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Umm, actually they didn't apply to be on the list. They competed against like 250 bands to be on that list.
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Two sources is not multiple. Where is the Daily Chronicle source? What is the proof of the Skinnie source?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Okay, before I say anything, I apologize for that. I'm sorry.. I hope you'll forgive me.
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As in, they played three locations in a competition against a bunch of other bands.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The prod was contested. I can't find significant coverage for this
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That is pretty special that they made it out of 200 other bands.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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There is now a reference link to the skinnie source.
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20:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
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