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Philippines would rightly have been described as having a "secondary education program". But I hardly think that's what the guideline intended. And its current status isn't clear at all. If it offers the full 7-10 "junior high school" program (and we had some sort of halfway reliable sourcing to that end), then I'd likely not argue for deletion, since we apparently do retain, solely on existence, American schools that offer 9/10 programs but no higher (and, it seems, their UK equivalents). But we don't have sources to say it does. All we
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Integrated School (from 2010–11 until the K-12 legislation) would have qualified it under SCHOOLOUTCOMES. But that was not necessarily the
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