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source is sufficient to satisfy notability until the article can be better fleshed out, then so be it. But I think it would be a mistake for any editor to cast their !vote here on the assumption that there is abundant appropriate reference in
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policy. Most of those links do not, for various reasons -- indeed, we could find plenty of like sources in
English that unfortunately suffer the same shortcoming. Of those that might qualify as RS, most all of them are concerned solely with the Dengue fever outbreak, and although they might be well
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I tried to edit this page and add more current information but I feel its useless as this is just a model's page. The page hasn't been updated in over a year with the only mention being she had some virus. While Saaya is 21 years old and is still a model/cosplayer does that really warrant a wikipedia
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I also took out some clutter that was in the "DVD" and "book" section that seemed more like an advertisement. So that's when I began to question the articles true merits. While I'm a fan of her 2012 photobook "airen" I still don't see why she has a page. I had a previous wikipedia login before but I
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Of course I see mentions on this page of her being a voice actress and having three or four singles as far as her music career goes but that didn't materialize into anything noteworthy afterwards. Also bit roles in movies don't count as I don't think a second long cameo means anything. I think that
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Shimbun article is certainly RS, and it does go into "some" detail about the model. It's really more of a promotional piece for a particular work though, and light on background about her, so it's an ambiguous case at best. If our editors feel that one such
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positioned to source the fact that a model contracted the disease at a public event for any article concerned with that outbreak, they don't go very far towards establishing Ms. Irie's notability.
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in the US. Unsurprisingly, most sources will be in the
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standards and it does not establish anything about this young woman's career, outside the fact that she is a model. In fact, the article refers to her by name only twice:
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