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306:. The nominator and his friends are engaged in a cover-up operation as far as I can see. Apparently, they do not want Hindu acts of terrorism brought to light. From the academic review of the book, we note: "For anyone who has not been following the news about Hindutva terrorist attacks, the sheer number and wide geographical distribution of these attacks is astonishing, and indicates, as the author suggests, a turn from communal pogroms to terror attacks as the favoured strategy for “the reactionary political project of building fascism”. It is apparent that at least in the 21st century, Hindutva terror has been far more active in India than Islamist terror." Knowledge should not bend to fascism and terrorism. 978:: This is clearly created for its shock value and does not contribute much academically as it appears to be just a collection of references from other pages and few reliable sources. Some in list have actually been referred by international experts to opposite conclusions than mentioned in the article. This article hence appears nothing more than a list of alleged acts and not really a legitimate article. The term itself has been coined by Chidambaram and Sharad Pawar as a political ploy to defame Hindu nationalism and Hindutva political parties. Voting for Deletion of this article as this seems to only promote the creation of Congress party's appeasement politics for political gains -- 2216:"Off the mark" ? Great argument, it has been said several time during the discussion that you will be able to find not just 2 but event 200 sources where this phrase is mentioned. This is not really helpful unless those resources explain the phenomenon deal with the subject directly. As explained by TFD (in the diff provided) this source fails to deal with the subject properly. You have failed to explain why the source are helpful. All you are able to do is a google search and provide the number of hits of sources which has the phrase. This is not really helpful. - 404:. Majority of scholars define these acts as riots and not terrorism. Riots are riots, terrorism is terrorism. As far as fascism is concerned, it requires an Authoritarian system - one that is certainly not being supported by the said groups. Common Law (supported by these groups), religious liberty (supported by these groups) is not a sign of fascism. Of course, by having common law for every citizen in the country is somehow fascism, I am afraid that most western coutries including US and Euro countries are the same.-- 2108:
Counterterrorism: New Perspectives" edited by Daniela Pisoiu pp. 192-3. These two sources "cite what reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept" as requested by other editors. This should be more than enough to satisfy that requirement. Whether I am a new editor at Knowledge is immaterial. I am not new at life, research, debate, or human interaction. The request for deletion of this subject is unwarranted, as are threats of taking me to ANI.
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mentioned in the article have reached their conclusion, the whole article seems to be some list of allegations and there is no detailed explanation in place on wikipedia even after so many years after the article creation. It can be because the editors did not work on the article or because there is nothing much to cover. A lot of editors here are confused between terrorism, communal violence and single handed assassinations. This phrase is a Neo, as mentioned at
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its non-religious nature and to identify an alleged terror oraganisation and activities of some saffron clad people. They may or may not be Hindu, they may or may not be Hindutva ideologues. They might as well be Buddhists. I would really want it to be renamed as Hindu terrorism, but keeping in mind the sensitivity, required neutral viewpoint of this issue and the widespread use and familiarity of the word, the word Saffron should stay.
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synthesis and leaves a large open field for misinterpretation" according to you, but they are still there because the existence of that theory is a fact, whether the theory is real or not forms the content of the article. The existence of this word in itself is a fact and this article describes the usage, relevance and history of this term, whether the word as a phenomena is real or not forms the content of this article. The phrase
1880:. Very less portion of the article actually deal with the term "saffron terror". I roughly checked all the links before the allegation section and less than half of the sources uses the term "saffron terror". Even most of those sources don't discuss the term, rather they discuss the phenomena, which makes this neologism unnotable. The phenomena is rather more notable, but a page move will be required to a better title. -- 1779:. This is what is being done in many of the arguments above, with the number of hits and other things. A few others seems to be suggesting synonyms for the phrase and want to liberally use other sources which constitutes OR and other editors who are trying to link it with "Hindu Terrorism" or a religious motivated terrorism should try to understand the subject, it very much gives an impression that there is a 1859:
would be (a) that once the page is brought up to NPOV/RS standards it will have insufficient content beyond a dictionary definition, or (b) that there is an obvious target for merge and redirect. I see some comments that have touched on each of these, but I hope someone can either summarize one or both of these positions or otherwise point me to where I may be overlooking or misreading. --—
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Gods and threatened repeatedly against the entire country). This article at its very least should mention that it's an allegedly political term and elaborate on that if so desired. this should not be a laundry list of alleged attacks some of which are not even referred to as terrorist acts and some are known linked to other groups. It only adds to sensationalizing the term --
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source for 'Saffron Terrorism') uses that as the section heading and there are thousands of secondary sources on that particular substantiation. I think the good faith opinions on both sides can meet in the middle for the article being titled 'Hindu Terrorism' (which already redirects here) which is certainly notable and less problematic than 'Saffron Terrorism'. Peace.
499:, you said that the lead suggests that "individuals with hindu religion belief" are being accused. So, you want your favourite organisations to look good and you want hindu religion to look good. You want this article gone so that you can continue your denial. So, this is a politically motivated AfD. It is not done in the best interests of Knowledge. 2246:
reality. According to rule of law, unless one is proved guilty, one should be considered as innocent and more importantly should not be used as political tools. You simply cannot add an article on wikipedia based on some wild allegations especially when it defames a community. तेजा శ్రీనివాస్ 14:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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To clarify: I vote Delete for an article about the term "Saffron terror". But I am probably neutral if the article is renamed and the new article make it clear that it is about concept not the term. The alleged/non-alleged concept of saffron/hindutava terror has been discussed in enough in media and
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given the available sources. That's not to say the article as it is should stay as it is, of course -- just that I don't think deletion is the way to solve problems with the article. That said, I feel like I may misunderstand some of the delete arguments. The most convincing non-keep arguments to me
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You perhaps mention the exact problem with the article as you find "saffron" not a monopoly with Hinduism, which i have noted in the nomination is leading to synthesis and leaves a large open field for misinterpretation and the information you stated that "some media" used this word "saffron terror"
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or make it famous. again note that the books stated by you "Godse's Children: Hindutva Terror in India by Subhash Gatade " itself looks like a stitched work of many historical events, note that the book is released on 2011. when Gandhi was killed nowhere was it called hindu terror during the period
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Unaffiliated editor. The title 'Saffron terrorism' fails the Neo requirements (until a secondary source spends a page on a neologism then it isn't notable--no secondary source does, so...). But 'Hindu Terrorism' is certainly a notable topic. The Matusitz book (that is the most substantive secondary
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As I have mentioned above, your personal research of google search doesn't matter, it would only matter when those hits have explained the phenomenon in detail, also I did not mention that you are pushing your POV, commenting that I am pushing my POV doesn't really help here. You comment shows the
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enough sources that discuss the term to meet GNG for the article itself. Even if that were not true, you agree that most of the sources do discuss the phenomenon, which suggests that there is enough material for an article on the subject, whether with this name or a different one. So it seems like
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There is no reason as to why this page must be deleted. I do not think that it should even be renamed because firstly, Saffron is a colour, it is neither an ideology, nor a religion. It is a colour which happened to have a religious or ideological significance. Saffron terror was merely chosen for
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NONE of them are proved. It is widely believed that this is a part of a structured campaign to tarnish political rivals. None believe these conspiracy theories(Yes, I did called them) other than leftists(who dominate "intellectual" space in India(This explains notability)) who anyway lost grip on
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Again we are not talking about how many times the WP:NEO word apeared in your google search, nor are we looking to create a new word in dictionary by making it famous, please refer to previous comments the books and sourced mentioned by you is already been discussed, nobody is thereatning you nor
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Notability is clearly at issue here, and this is notable. Personally, I don't have a dog in this fight. Someone is apparently offended that this article exists, and wants to see it disappear. I am disconnected from this culturally, nationally, and religiously. The POV that I am pushing is that
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had used the terrorist adjective to the groups. They have however used The term right wing Hindu nationalist that include fringe rogue elements. Such elements exist in all Right or Left wing groups or parties in India (case in point Akbar Owaisi in AIMIM - who has incited crowds by defaming Hindu
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We are not a panel to decide about the consequences of a given information. We are archivists, we archive any information about a particular word of phenomena which exists, allegedly or in reality. There are wikipedia articles about conspiracy theories, doesn't those conspiracy theories lead "to
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An editor's personal observations and research (e.g. finding blogs, books, and articles that use the term rather than are about the term) are insufficient to support articles on neologisms because this may require analysis and synthesis of primary source material to advance a position, which is
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The article shows that the term "saffron terror" comes from journalistic sources. Neither of the cited articles mention any political origins for the term. If you want to claim that the term was political, you need to substantiate it by providing political sources that predate the journalistic
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The question is not about who created this term? Even if Congress party had created this phrase, it is hardly a reason for the deletion of this article. However I can make one observation from the article, the phrase was widely used during the regime of one political party. None of the events
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requires. I provided two such; Kautilya provided a couple; ScrapIron produced some; Neil produced some. Those of you voting "delete" have not provided a convincing rebuttal to any of these. When I confronted you with the EPW source, your only problem was that it was a "magazine," followed by
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What about the list of terrorists that was released by the Home Ministry after Shinde's Saffron terror remark, now they were not allegations, were they? How else then the Home Ministry can reveal their names. They were either convicted or absconding. Now you would say, the list had too few
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Actually, I did provide a source, but here are two others - which specifically deal with the "the phenomenon in detail" as you have requested. "Symbolism in Terrorism: Motivation, Communication, and Behavior" By Jonathan Matusitz. Chapter 8 is dedicated to this phenomenon. Also, "Arguing
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Heck No. I have commented and have followed this page when I was reading other related pages. Do you not even care to look at talk page? Should I level the same charge when you and AsceticRose came out of nowhere when I was being edit warred by vanamonde? Please stop making such baseless
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where number of vote counts. Your bold lettered keep doesn't make much difference. Also keep up with your personal comments, you would be soon finding yourself at ANI or some other place. However it is amazing to know that someone who is fairly new to wikipedia makes such a good comment
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I agree. The term saffron terror had only been started by congress in early 2000s for political gains and latched on by biased sources. What has been labeled the so called terror groups are only labeled for political and religious gains. No reliable scholarly source that is
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Nonsense; EPW is an excellent academic journal, and Frontline is non-academic but certainly has rigourous editorial oversight. What part of "reliable and secondary" do they not satisfy? Besides, you seem to be equating "research" with "opinion," which is ridiculous.
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The term is used by mainstream newspaper and publications. There are sufficient number of citations in the article to support that. And the term has been, it seems, in use at least since 2002. Kautilya3 has discussed the notability in detail in his keep voting
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Just because the terror incidents by Saffron terrorists are less now, this article cannot be deleted. All the incidents mentioned in the article and few other incidents (a simple Google search will help) are a clear outcome of Saffron Terrorism. Multiple
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neologism does not give right to the word "saffron terrorism " be made famous as it lacks secondary sources, I do not understand eventhough your analysis is correct you are putting this under keep ? . and this article has nothing to do with
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Hindus do not have a monopoly of the term Saffron, Hindu, Hindutva just like the way Muslims do not have the monopoly over the term Jihad and Islam. It can be used in anyway one feels like for they are just words. The media used the phrase
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to "Hindu terrorism", since this is a real and important phenomenon, and both terms are used by scholarly sources (links provided above by others, but a cursory look at google books or google scholar will demonstrate as much).
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puts it there is only statment of the word in all the newspaper article and has very few or nil secoundary sources describing or critically analysing it. currently the article is stitched up to as to give weight to the word
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is not a neologism because the phrase is being used for more than 12 years now and is quite a popular word. I would like to divert this discussion to the talk page so, ping me in the talk page if you wish to
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attempts haave been made to delete this article. But it has survived. Go through the Talk page and see why earlier attempts to delete this article were not successful. Those reasons are still applicable.
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This article has the potential to be better through addition and citation of more reliable sources, proper editing and adding of pictures. This article can certainly not be made better through deletion.
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Both of these are in widespread use as RS across the 'pedia. More can be provided if necessary; but last I checked, two sources satisfied the criteria for "multiple." This meets GNG very comfortably.
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attempt was made to delete this article, the result was "no consensus". I think you did not even cared to do your homework before making this comment. Google search will not help, get the source. -
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Sitush has deliberately stayed away from this AfD. To drag him in here is in bad taste. Do you realize you are being too noisy in here? Why don't you relax and let people do their thinking?
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One would naturally expect an 'Islamic' publisher to publish books about terrorism that targets Muslims. That doesn't automatically make them "unreliable." Subhash Gatade has published in
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of the event, if some author calls it hindu terror after 60 years of the event in one of his book and not even notable enough will not give due weight to in wikipedia. and doubt on its
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I have not questioned the degree of excellence of EPW journal , the "research" in the general is on the "opinons" of the people and am not equating a research to a opinion
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the book just only uses the word without any description ones! out of again 350 odd pages, I do not believe this can be used to make the word ready for a dictonary
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The word dictionary was used in indirect meaning suggesting it (saffron terror) has very little mention in the sources qouted and nothing to do with dictionary use
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is only meant to discuss the inclusion and exclusion of a particular subject, That's it. Get your arguments straight! (see also, comment above left by User:NeilN)
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Again off the mark. My point was that GNG requires two sources, by and large; several more than that have been provided. Therefore, you need to demostrate that
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nor Hinduism vs Islam, please keep the topic away from the article as I do also see that your are mentioning that "we call it ...." .who are the we ?
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Flying mentions are really not enough for proving notability. There are thousands of terms that are more popular and more notable than this one.
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Confused with a number of other political party and pages where terrorism was a subject. Although he has still edited a few related pages like
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condemning your point of view, if you do not see the reason, you would not like to read the reason why it has been nominated thats your take
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Hmm. despite reading the comments and links to talk page edits, you do not want to believe. So apparently simply saying so was not enough. --
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I cannot see any articles about the topic in scholarly sources. There are not even sources that say something like "it is a term used by
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Yes, that is probably the case. It needs improvement but not in the way of here-is-saffron-terror(ists)-list-according-to-wiki-editors. --
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This is a ridiculous AfD that should be rejected without any consideration. The term "saffron terror" produces about 50,000 google hits
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All Jaffrelot has written in his life is about anti Hindu nationalism including while during his studies. So I would not count him as
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I rest my case with the admin who will take the decision, I have no intention of changing your vote since all of us know that
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Blades, that argument is totally irrelevant, and you know it. If the Terrorism in India page doesn't have it, then put it in.
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Well, that the nominator has canvassed you is a fact. If you would have come here of your own accord, you may simply say so.
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This has nothing to do with religion, the acts are not driven by religious zeal but allegedly driven by ideological zeal. -
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something quite incoherent and off topic. You've produced something similar here. The sources are reliable, and they
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I suggest the afd tag be removed from this article and more details are added to this page like any other Terror page
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and are from magazine and a newpaper also themselves refering to newsarticle which are again opinions of others
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Shouldn't we wait for Christophe to complete his book? The other book is published by Pharos, check their
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Not sure I'm seeing the nom's logic here. The topic is valid and should be included in the encyclopedia.
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No one is questioning the notability here (at leat not me), this AFD should discuss the issues like
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Please keep your emotions at check , divide the article from your emotional attachments to it, as
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deals with this in detail by explaining the origin, the usage and its familiarity in the public.
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ScrapIron's comments are quite justifiable. Reliable sources have been provided that not only
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Pushing your POV onto my comment does not change my vote. The sources are more than adequate.
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means that scholars are free to study whatever subjects interest them. A cursory look at the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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and 23 articles in The Indian Express say otherwise. It is far more than a "flying mention."
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you are probably correct, what you think about the circumstances that have lead this AFD?
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from 350 odd pages it is mentioned ones and that too the book is still a new print and
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promoting political propaganda. The term has been described in newspapers and books.
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We add only convictions not just a few allegations. Thinkmath's recent change on
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Over 50,000 Google hits, including an article in the Times of India this year
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I am not sure why this article is being targetted so many times for deletion.
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This is notable, sourced, and a widely used term deserving of its own entry.
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Gittinger, Juli (10 September 2011). "Saffron Terror: Splinter or Symptom?".
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maybe notable. Although, I do not believe that any such terror exist.--
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I believe "emotions" are exactly what brought you here. In this edit
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the topic in question; there really isn't anything more to be said.
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and discuss content, take your complaints to ANI if you mean it. --
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Just like TFD has said on talk(page) of this AFD, if there is any
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are not up to the mark before your votes can be taken seriously.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on your talk page about personal attacks by another editor for
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The source provided by ScrapIron has already been discussed
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this belongs, per Knowledge guidelines. My vote remains at
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discussion moved to user talk as irrelevant to this page.
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at least in the short term per AbstractIllusions above.
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stay, all the terror event mentioned are enough for
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