Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Saiyan (Dragon Ball)

705:. You were very wrong to restore the redirect on both occasions. On the English Knowledge (XXG), we try our best to avoid articles on fiction that are based entirely on primary sources and clearly have no coverage by reliable third-party sources. These type of articles that do exits are often created by fans who aren't aware or don't care about Knowledge (XXG)'s policies on fiction and notability. It was clear in both of your restorations that you were not going to "get the point", which is why I decided to put the article up for deletion with the intentions of recreating a redirect later rather than edit waring over returning it to a redirect. — 2426:

article will necessarily have secondary information. Some portions of the article may use entirely primary source information. In order for the "Saiyan" concept to get its own standalone article, there have to be secondary sources that discuss specifically the race as a concept. Yes, I understand that Knowledge (XXG) is not there to mirror a particular primary source 100%. However we can take what is deemed encyclopedic or worthy of including from that primary source, and combine it with the encyclopedic material from other primary sources to build significant sections of articles about fictional universes. For instance with the

1610:: I don't think it is appropriate to merge all Dragon Ball articles into one. While it is not sensible to say it compares to Star Trek, it is unquestionably a notable franchise. (I for one have never seen a full episode of Dragon Ball and I know the word Saiyan and Super Saiyan. I don't really know what they mean, but it's a part of my 'pop culture exposure') There are four animated series, multiple animated movies, at least one live action film, video games, as well as manga series' and other productions. If the notable details of all these works are included in one article, it would become large and unwieldy, there 668:. It's as simple as that. There is no debate. By any normal standard that's grounds for a revert. Maybe you guys play things fast and loose in your WP, I don't know. But to me it seemed pretty clear cut. As for the India articles, keep in mind that after the redirect was posted an editor overwrote it in good faith and began posting information about a village named Saiyan in India. The info was pretty bad, but that's what first grabbed my attention. I looked into the edit history, realized that a pretty shady redirect was done so I restored it as best I could, moved it to 628:

poking around in it. Sorry, but someone who isn't pushing a "fanboy" agenda and has no interest in the topic is certainly not going to be inclined to vilify and declare all of the active, experienced editors involved in the discussion, who are all members of the Anime and manga project and actually are well versed in the topic, to have acting wrongly. Unless of course you really have some other motive. Dragon Ball's Saiyan has nothing to do with India, so I don't see what you could possibly plan to "develop". --

878:, if not all foreign pop culture articles, are produced and worked on by fanboys and fangirls who really have no access to the those aforementioned source materials or can even speak or read the language to help make a real dent on such an article as this. And any if all people with any real access and incite on the sources have moved on and are busy with real life. I'd be more incline to wait until more sources for the impact and more translations of the source books appear to attempt another 805:, with Google's snippet of the review saying "For example, her adroit and thoughtful reading of the primary text of Dragon Ball Z exposes the testosterone-driven—and borderline white supremacist—behavior of the Saiyan warriors." I don't think the full text of either the review or the book is available from Google, but if the book actually discusses the Saiyans in detail then it could be a good source. Searching Google Scholar for the alternate spelling "saiyajin" turns up some hits as well 2307:- Back when "Cranbury School" was on AFD, I didn't just argue on why to keep it. I went out and tried to build the article and source as much as I could. Alansohn and I not only built up the article - we found proof that it needed to be kept. Please learn from this example. If "Saiyan" is salvable, then go on LexisNexis, go on Questia, read the Dragon Ball guidebooks, build up the article, and 397:(a redirect PeRshGo has wrongly undone as well); PeRshGo's inappropriate dismissal of the consensus there and the overall clean up of DB articles is deserving of a troutslap. Unnotable fictional concept with no actual significant coverage in any reliable source, and as nom notes, Knowledge (XXG) is not a fansite. There is an active Dragon Ball wikia for that sort of extensive, minute OR. -- 554:. Discussions do not occur in both places, nor is it supposed to. FYI, one of the participants in that discussion was an admin, so I seriously doubt he wouldn't have said something if procedure had not been done properly, but of course it was. You simply disagreed with the result and came later and undid it all, twice, despite being told it was by consensus, which it was. -- 1210:

time it seems silly to ignore it. But as I said I'm not going to try and fight a whole WikiProject that has decided that the series isn't worth the article space. Rather than improve the articles you just delete them because you don't care to improve them yourself. Whatever. It's your WP, do whatever you want. But don't play make believe with me.

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though he has declined to do so). So now that he has proclaimed that he is dropping it, are you picking up his banner to make the same inappropriate remarks? There is no "crusade" going on, just several editors validly annoyed as PeRshGo's actions and his having stirred up controversy and made bad-faith accusations without cause. --

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use this AfD as a precedent to delete every fiction-related article that isn't directly about the series itself or a character or episode list of accepted legitimacy. This includes all "_____ universe" articles that explain a setting and any topics regarding fictional terms, races, abilities and etc.

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arguments like article size, i like it, its deserve it and the like. I am tired of false promises and short minded editors who think that their preferred fictional series is better covered by Knowledge (XXG) with more articles which would only result to ridicule and brand the set of article as Fandom

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A person trying to create an article about the Dragon Ball universe as a whole will certainly find secondary sources that describe reception to the way the universe was constructed, securing the article's existence as a standalone article. However not every element individually documented in such an

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Give me a break. Earn it? Article size is specifically mentioned at the top of the edit box when you edit a large article. Is this not, and has this not always been, because beyond a certain size, forking is encouraged? Has something changed? Otherwise, what would be the point of creating forks

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and plot summary. Whether you agree with the project member's consensus that the topic of DB is best served with one article about the series rather than two redundant articles is your own issue. Thanks, at least, for making it very clear that despite your protests above, you really are just another

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finding it and telling me about it and me then reporting it, it might still be up unchanged for untold months if not years. The real world content is there in term of the Toriyama's development of the race, thank to the source books like the Daizenshus and the more recently published books. However,

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should have come with its own tag. And just because an admin was involved somehow doesn't mean they oversaw every step. It was a bad move, and given the article was written primarily by inexperienced editors it went unchallenged. I'm not here pushing some fanboy agenda. I can't even remember my last

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See the entire ANI for the issues, and the fact is that PeRshGo himself has stated he went to far in his accusations at this AfD and his continued personal attacks against specific editors and an entire WikiProject. He also was sternly warned in the AfD (and encouraged to come strike his comments -

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Once all of the repetitive information was removed, there wasn't much left other than critical reception and information about the series broadcast. It was because there was so much repetitive information and not enough unique information that the two articles were merged. In fact, that is why most

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Plenty of valid information to fill the article, which wouldn't fit well anywhere else. Notable races in comic books, and other fictional series have their own races. It helps to understand the series better. It is the race that the main character is, as well as a fair number of other characters

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because they are *gasp* the same series! That they added an extra name on the anime release does not negate that. That consensus has been consistentlyexpand upheld in nearly annual revisiting of the discussion. Not that I bet you'll care, as you seem determine to just stir up hornet's nests and run

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race Saiyan, but I just never got around to it. And I never said I know nothing about DBZ. I've watched a lot of the show, and own a few of the fighting titles, but I'm far from a fanboy. I don't spend a lot of time in the fiction realm in general on Knowledge (XXG). But if I had to name a wiki pet

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when only trying to describe how this page was improperly redirected I could no longer ignore the blatant bad faith seen throughout the entire subject. A spin off with 9 seasons is considered non-notable. Seriously? Accuse me of whatever you like but when crap like that is being pulled at the same

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does not invalidate the consensus at all. It would have had the same participants either way. The move was valid, no matter how much you want to complain, and argue. And if you know nothing about the topic, and couldn't care less, then why would you even be looking at a redirect from last year and

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A Dragon Ball universe article would also only be appropriate with third-party coverage. "interesting information" that is only from primary sources is not a basis for creating any article. If the only coverage of the race is in the guidebooks, those interested in learning such information should

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For reception information or additional creation information in third party sources, things in LexisNexis, EBSCOHost, etc. would help with that. Also he could contact the Chatsubo and ask for the Japanese to look for reviews that discuss reactions to the way the Saiyan race was established in the

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Read the text. That was in reference to the Super Saiyan article not this one. One person saying they should do it and one agreeing with no further discussion is NOT consensus. Even the issue of merging the Super Saiyan article was still in debate. And keep in mind you're referencing a discussion

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Uh, it's perfectly valid to consider treating a manga series and an anime series as separate productions, because they are. In some cases it would be appropriate to include them in the same article, for example if both topics were simple, and there was little difference between them and their

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I didn't restore the WP stuff because I didn't realize it was missing. This wasn't a labor of love for me. I just did it because by any normal standard it would be a bad move. Someone with little to no consensus and no tags that directly mentioned the redirect, redirected a page that exists in

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Dude, look at his history and the 30 variants of that name he's used - nothing shady about it, pretty much a guarantee. Just doing CU to get any sleepers since he, like most sockers, like to make more than one at once. Have asked an admin to deal with blocking him. And my noting, and properly

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It's alright I get it. I looked around and realized nearly all of the Dragon Ball related articles got steamrolled in one foul swoop. This just happened to be the one little article I noticed. The dozens of low quality Dragon Ball articles that had popped up over the years were decided to be

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as this is an ongoing revert attempts and content dispute with multiple editors, including both IP and non-IP and will likely only continue if it is not protected from such reversions in the future. The attempts at reverting have never shown any attempt to follow policies or guidelines like

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I was arguing for this article primarly because I thought it was a shady redirect on an old and internationally recognized article, but when I realized that even Dragon Ball Z didn't have it's own article the problem seemed to be a bit larger. I think BalthCat brings up a good point.

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collectively cleaned out. I understand that Wikiprojects often do this sort of thing. Sometimes you just gotta clean house. I don't necessarily believe in the practice, as it really can't be considered good faith, but I can live with it. Just be more honest about it next time.

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for now for me as well. Here's my thing, the article was a submarine resurrection. The project tag and a link in template are missing. Which gives me the impression that the editor brought this article back under the radar in hopes that the page might live. If it wasn't for

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reception/ In this case, you have a manga series which has spawned multiple notable productions in various media, and varied reception internationally. It is not appropriate that all offshoots be in one article. While all the books in Rowling's series happen within the

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Fans of the series who want the article kept can consult their guidebooks. If someone doesn't have a book but knows a Wikipedian who has a book, they can ask the Wikipedian to look up the book to see if there is content about the development of Saiyans.

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that does not need a redundant second article. The WikiProject works hard to improve anime/manga articles, which doesn't mean catering to fans who are bound and determined to pretend they are not the same series and who want to have pages upon pages of

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do you see any problems with any edit warring? Hopefully all of those editing with IP addresses will take the time to comment here. The opinions of those editing the article, and who actually watch the series, I think should always be sought after.

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at all? They contain a certain amount of redundant information, which requires redundant sourcing. While PeRshGo could possibly be fan-minded, I am not; I hated Dragon Ball Z, and I don't appreciate you attacking him in his response to me. -

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A DBZ article actually existed, but it was merged into the Dragon Ball article a few years ago and I helped organized the cleanup of these articles at that time, along with some help from other users. You can find the information about DBZ

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somewhere else if you can not make any more productive contributes to this discussion. AnmaFinotera, I and the others have given policy base reasons why this article should not exists. You have presented nothing but allusions of bad faith.

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There is a difference between this and other races. Other fictional races have well-sourced information about creation and conception and reaction from critics. This one doesn't. We cannot have a separate page without what I mentioned.

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It was quite honest and open and over a period of time. So your hints that the redirects, and the cleanup of the DB article series as a whole, was done in bad faith is evident of your own bad faith, as you comment below exemplifies.

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Kill. It. All. Knowledge (XXG) is a serious encyclopedia for real world subjects and we, as Wikipedians, have a responsibility to purge this garbage from all publicly available online venues for the benefit of our readers. -

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What I do know is that the Dragon Ball franchise is one of the most popular ever (lamentably) in both Japan and America and that Saiyans are one of the most important & common plot elements, that hits in both or my

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The article was redirected with no consensus, and as such it was reverted. A discussion had taken place about merging Super Saiyan into this article but an overzealous editor decided on their own to redirect both to the

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article overkill? And I would note that Dragon Ball is only so short because the mergers done were mergers in name only. Little to no information is ever copied into the article despite some of it being well sourced.

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in Japan. It is not significant different from the first half of the series, it is a continuation of the same story. Nor did anyone say it was "non-notable" rather than it is the same topic already covered in

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report be filed on PeRshGo as he or she is clearly doing nothing more than being disruptive this AfD by repeatedly attack other editors for unrelated issues instead of discussing the article up for deletion.

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that never took place on the Saiyan talk page. The merger was completely out of line with proper procedure. And no, I have not stated that this is a perfect article but it needs improvement, not deletion.

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due to it's early entry into our lexicon. Plus, we also have to contend with the sad fact that, and I mean no disrespect the editors here or anywhere else on Knowledge (XXG), most editors working on

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which referenced the various Indian villages. I had hoped to do a bit more research about the villages, perhaps write an article, and see if maybe one of them may have been the reason for naming the

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I've explained that I feel your actions preceding the "merger" were inadequate on many levels. It seems that defending weak actions are appropriate, and defending a weak article is rampant fandom.

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Even if he only finds primary source creation info from guidebooks, it means that the "Saiyan" section of a "Dragon Ball universe" would be of a decent size with lots of interesting information.

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accusation. But I'm just calling BS at this point. It really has no purpose. I'm not going to try and fight a whole WikiProject that has decided that the series isn't worth the article space.

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article. The article needs work but that only means it should be improved, not deleted. Keep in mind we are talking about an article that exists in 12 languages and has hundreds of edits.

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get their own articles unless the terms themselves are discussed in detail in secondary sources. If you want this article saved, go through the books and add the secondary material.

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for now for lack of established notability and for being mostly unsourced plot. If parts can be merged elsewhere (i.e. by slightly restructuring the List of characters), go ahead. –

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peeve it would be overzealous and premature deletions. Articles as old as this one, and that exist on so many languages shouldn't just disappear without as much as a proper tag.

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to cover this article. The Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball anime articles have all been redirected to the Dragon Ball article, as well as the Super Saiyan article.

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Destroy this article. It violates the almighty WP:N, as well as numerous other policies and guidelines that've been widely accepted as consensus by roughly three dozen people.

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This might be more convincing to bystanders if you all maintained the appearance of WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF. Since you haven't, it really looks like you are on a crusade. -

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reporting, him as a known sockpuppetter has nothing to do with anything. Your continued attacks on the Anime and Manga project and claims of "shady" activity are grossly

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The discussion was in reference to both articles. Just because the discussion occurred in one place doesn't mean that the consensus to redirect both articles to

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No, I am referencing both. It was done in an appropriate fashion. Your disagreeing with them and randomly deciding to undo them ages later is your issue. --

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Which is Knowledge (XXG) refuses to give in to the fan minded editors. You want a separate article for a fictional element, universe, character, etc...

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is not a "spin off", it is simply the English name for the latter half of the manga and its anime adaptation, the former of which was released as just

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as containing an extensive plot summary with not a single third-party source to provide real-world relevance, such as reception, development, and .

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before being redirected. The discussion occurred properly at Super Saiyan re merging the two articles, and the consensus was to redirect BOTH to

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Alright, things are getting even shadier now with posts being deleted. Whatever, do what you want with it. I don't want any part of this mess.

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books and guidebooks to see if Toriyama mentions any notes about how he designed Saiyans, what he decided to do, etc. Failing that, go on the

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is very symbolic on how much we can screw up with excessive spin-out with a fictional franchise. It went as far as creating one article per

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mentality will result epic failure with Original Research, Point of View pushing & from fans for fans writing style & contents. --

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has to be the most shady WikiProject on this website. And this is from someone who does most his edits in the realm of secret societies.

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Gwern, you do have to dig through LexisNexis. See, while a fictional universe is a notable topic, terms within the fictional universe

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Nah It's cool. You actually bothered to mention it on the talk page this time. Good job. And anyways I'll be too busy trying to merge

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manga articles with anime adaptations, or visa versa, are always combined. But this is entirely off-topic and has nothing to do with

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because it has not been covered by a single reliable third-party source. As for there being no consenses for the original redirect,

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for now. No evidence of meeting any relevant inclusion guideline. Would gladly change my position if enough evidences are found. --

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newspaper articles and some other supplementary materials) was incredibly helpful in building up sections of Death Note articles.

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You didn't follow anything close appropriate procedure so I reverted it. If you can show me a merger tag, or even one comment on

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several other languages, has countless edits and from looking at the history has already had 2 pages merged into it. It seems

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that appear throughout the series, and there even an entire movie about them(something, Father of Goku, it was called).

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and ask Japanese editors if they know any works that talk about Toriyama's development and conception of the Saiyans.

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The edit summary notes it was done per consensus, so take your bad faith, thinly veiled negative claims elsewhere. --

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edit within the realm of anime. And given your constant accusations I can't help but think it's all motivated by

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a

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proves that to be completely false. There was a discussion and a consensus formed to redirect both articles to

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a

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am I correct in assuming this opinion is meant as satire? If not, I'll try to explain why I thought it was.

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simply buy the guideline. Knowledge (XXG) does not exist purely to mirror a primary source, after all. --

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Civility is not reverting an editor's undoing of your bad actions and saying "Thanks for your opinion"

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to my position. It may warrant an article in any future but certainly any editor recreating it with a

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and the latter exists. I think the former is the sensible solution here. Create an article such as

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All appropriate and reliably sourced content was merged. Please stop the incorrect accusations. --

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stuff. I don't need to go through all the LexisNexis hits to know that this is an obvious keep. --

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you can be certain it would get reverted. Not even a merger tag was put up. It was just done.

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.

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around fancrufting the DB articles despite your continued claims that you aren't a "fan". --

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restore redirect per the consensus at the merge discussion that occured quite awhile ago at

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sock and should just be removed per usual procedures for dealing with banned people. --

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exists. Either one or both of these elements are needed to write a standalone article.

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it. Prove that the spin-out is warranted with enough evidences of notability and not

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that would be something. But you can't show either because they never happened.

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Per above and per lack of independent sources with significant coverage. Fails

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Both articles were properly tagged for merger as is clear in the edit histories

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You aren't at any point referencing both discussions. Here's the discussion on

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it could conceivably come back. PeRshGo: I would suggest looking through VIZ

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per above. This article is a terrible in-universe fancruft extravaganza.

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wasn't agreed to or even mentioned. You just did it, no tag, no anything.

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I don't see any problems with that happening yet. Where in the history

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case as it's just 28 KBs of readable proses. If you like some reading

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None of this excuses the fact that the article fundamentally fails

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.

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The case is still ongoing and was started by YOU. I have to say

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articles in order to keep this article are just a red herring. —

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Before you go making any more messes, look at the talk archive.

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