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48:. Keep arguments based on german wikipedia notability carry no weight here and the issue is sourcing. There appears to be a consensus that the person doesn't pass BIO and it should be noted that reliaty show participants are not considered inherantly notable here even if they garner some press as BLP1E kicks in.
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There is no such thing like a german or english wikipedia!!! The only difference is the language. So this is the wikipedia in english, the other is the wikipedia in german, but the wikipedias to not belong to a country. A example: if Sarah
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and lost relativly early. After that, she has done nothing of significance. Now she has entered the show I'm a
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