517:-- I am very suspicious as to both the subject of this discussion and LCCA. For the moment the best solution will be a selective merge to LCCA. I note that LCCA has an org.uk, not an ac.uk web address (which is unusual for a reputable institution). Before I could acknowledge notability, I would want to see that there are a significnat number of students studying fulltime. Are we sure that this is not one of the proliferation of so-called colleges that were purporting to offer courses, but were actually a front to get people around UK immigration control, enabling them to work here without studying?
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