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288:. However, notability is satisfied because there has been nontrivial coverage in multiple reliable sources, and notnews is satisfied because (to quote notnews), "news coverage goes beyond a single event". (The events in question include the Sunday Tribune's initial breakage of the story, Sean Sherlock's intervention, the apologies, the Pope's intervention, and the Commission of Inquiry, which all receive separate coverage.) 167:
Yes, but the Miami article covers events over a couple of decades. This appears to deal with the fallout from a report required by processes which were put in place and then ignored. If it had caused the processes to be put in place in the first place, I'd agree it was notable enough for an
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The Augustinian cleric launched the atonement walk after what he described as "the inexcusable" Diocese of Cloyne abuse allegations. He said he found these to be "the lowest ebb" of a sad, tragic story for the
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Technically a series of related events comprises an episode. (The distinction between an event and an episode canbe argued endlessly, it's basically a matter of analytical convenience.) One Episode is still
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I suppose it's a tenable point of view that this is "one event" that spans several months, but I should think that stretches the meaning of "one event" rather too far.—
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On quite a few counts, yes--but not this one in particular. I don't think papal action necessarily indicates notability in this case, though.--
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This is now part of history as are the other articles in the parent category. Certainly notable. Needs improvment? Then improve it.
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for the details of that episode. It should be included only if and to the extent that the episode casts light on the broader issue.
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I'd just like to note that if it's one event with several aspects, then those aspects are remarkably widely-separated in time.
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No evidence of particular notability is given here. Seems like just more piling on, and Knowledge is
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Therefore, no valid reason for deletion survives a serious examination of the subject.—
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There is certainly no shortage of sources if this were handled in the correct way. --
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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MBisanz
01:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Sexual abuse scandal in Cloyne diocese
Sexual abuse scandal in Cloyne diocese
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SarekOfVulcan
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19:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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19:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
SarekOfVulcan
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20:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
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