877:- CRN, SC Magazine and Silicon Valley Business Journal are very reputable journals and magazines and the articles were written specifically about Secure Access Technologies. It is INGENIOUS to call the references trivial! Dr. Taher ElGamal, the inventor of SSL is a backer of this company. The company presents revolutionary PROXIMITY security technology and 10 patents issued. This mention of Secure Access Technologies is of interest to all the security and crypto community.
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806:- This company has technology that is of great importance to the security community. Article references are with reputable CRN magazine, Silicon Valley Business Journal and SC Magazine. For ounce, I was able to learn about a new company with a great technology, and believe that this is of interest to the community as a whole. ] (]) 18:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Jump up ^ "SC MAGAZINE AWARDS 2014 FINALIST round one". scmagazine.com. Jump up ^ "SAT". mobilityforum.net. Jump up ^ "More
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gives the company only a trivial mention in a listing of 9 other companies. It briefly explains what the company's product is but gives no indication of its importance. I see here that Dr. Elgamal is on the company's Board of Advisors, but that is not inherently an
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Access Technologies Announces Integration with MobileIron AppConnect". reuters.com. surely i will also add some Reliable sources. It is within the scope of wikipedia's WikiProject Biography. It will be more improve earlier as people visit this page.
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696:- The article references are trivial mentions of the company or Press Releases, nothing here is substantial enough to be considered as non-trivial or enough to support inclusion into Knowledge (XXG).
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