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1100:. Putting the blinders on regarding the latest incident, she may be notable for other things, but the sources in the article do not establish that. Bylines, author blurbs and bios from the publisher, and passing mentions don't really add up to much. What we would need are profiles about her, or pieces in which she is the subject, or having won some major awards (two Emmy nominations might cut it, but I'm not sure). News reporters are always difficult to assess for notability, because as professionals the notability is in their work and how influential and widely viewed it is, like authors. But unlike authors, who seek publicity, news reporters usually try to duck publicity and don't write about each other, because they want to keep the story on the news, not themselves. As a local news reporter, I think she would only be notable for her work if it is particularly significant, influential, prominent, etc. Finally, the BLP1E and WP:NOT#NEWS concerns apply to the on-air event. However, Internet memes, and memorable events with lasting resonance, are certainly encyclopedic subjects. It remains to be seen whether this is such an event but it may well be. If major sources are still writing about this a month from now (and I'll bet they will be), then the event is notable and should be covered as such. That would imply renaming and refocusing this to be about the event, not about her. - 613:
and if the internet didn't exist, you would never even have a platform to voice your worthless rubbish. No one would listen to your rubbish; just another smelly college student getting ready to join a workforce of sheep. Serene Branson is a beautiful young lady who has achieved a wonderful prize and deserves to be recognized for that honor. She also has a wonderful career in front of her, despite you nasty talentless male pigs wishing her ill. FACT: None of YOU could win the Frank Shakespeare award. Deleting her article is totally against the spirit of Knowledge that Jimbo Wales professes to encourage while asking the public with his begging bowl to donate money. Please do NOT delete this article.
987:, an on-air screw-up or seizure or whatever they think it is, it will be in youtube's archives forever more and that will be the end of it. A smattering of local dribble trawled out of a google search does not rescue this person form obscurity; absent this event, we would not be talking about her all. There are thousands of reporters in thousands of communities who have no doubt received the same "Person X is leaving local outlet Y to take a job at local outlet Z" write-ups. 2165:, her article would have gone unnoticed if it was written about her after the local Emmy wins. Plus, this incident is notable in the context in an anthropological sense, of how the internet can exploit someone's (at that point presumed) medical issue; someone researching the history of the Internet and culture and general, as of 2100, will likely find this (and other examples) to be interesting, valuable case studies. It's planning ahead, essentially. Also, 2225: 983:- This is going to be the new task I appoint myself; every time I see some witless, TMZ-ish OHMYGOD news-of-the-day about some previously unknown person suddenly getting drive-byed by the 24/7 news media, I will come here. I will then search for this person, crossing my fingers and hoping against hope that it will be a redlink. Today, disappointment sets in. She is being mentioned only for this 31: 2110:- Just because the article was "hastily" put together and there was "incorrect reporting of an on air incident" does not diminish her notability. I think this AfD was "hastily" made without due consideration of that. The article is sourced. She has been nominated for and received notable awards. The article needs some expansion, and the information about the on-air incident needs some 2093:: On the one hand this event has spread through Youtube virally and has even spawned "remixes" and such. Birtation or Bird-tation might even become a meme. However I think this may die down, or it may stick around in reporting, but if attention were to die down lets leave the meme sites to report on this and lets not turn Knowledge into a lulz-free version of Encyclopediadramatica. 2576:
being interviewed by Diane Sawyer on ABC Evening News.  Additionally, I assume that there is a complete video library of her KCBS news reports that amounts to a large body of primary source material, and I think such a library makes any local reporter of a well-organized TV station a strong candidate for recognition as having enduring historical interest.
1204:- If her entry is deleted, then all kinds of entries for local TV personalities will have to be called into question. If the Grammy flub turns out to be nothing, then it should probably eventually be removed from her article. I would like to point out, however, that the "Hoobert Heever" flub occupies an entire paragraph high in the article for 1430:. If this article stays at all, it should be changed to an event. My opinion is that viral youtube videos, their re-mixes and any spawned internet memes are notable in their own right. Only time will tell if this person rises to notability because of the incident, but until that point this should be a page describing the event and the 664:– Fairnessprevails, It does not matter that you are new to Knowledge, such comments are not only not appreciated, but they are not acceptable in any form. If you wish to contribute to Knowledge, I suggest you realize this is a community of volunteers and understand you are welcome to disagree, but not become disagreeable. Please read 2300:(it just happened after all) but with a few improvements the article would stand on its own. Also, it's almost certain, as a relatively young reporter, that she will be doing more things. I'm not using a crystal ball, I'm just thinking that unequivocal hammering home of the "rules" can sometimes cause people to completely miss the 2296:), but that isn't the case. She is a reporter who has done other things and gained at least some notability during her career. I genuinely believe that the WP:N guidelines were not made with this kind of person/article in mind. I'm not seeing the harm in keeping the article and improving on it. Sure, this event is the focus 2224:, notable.  Discussion above shows that there were two events, (1) the video of the event, and (2) the misreporting regarding a stroke.  Therefore the positions based on WP:BLP1E fall.  Also not mentioned is that KCBS is not an affiliate but one of the core TV stations that defines CBS as a "network" (see 2575:
article states, "...Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside combined statistical area, which contains nearly 17.8 million people and center of the largest urban area in California. This makes it the 12th most populous metropolitan area in the world."  So as non-notable people go she is highly notable before
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The coverage is significant, sober, and serious - full articles in very respectable publications. Per Edison I think the question is whether a person with minor (which would imply keeping) or no (which would imply deleting or refocusing) notability, caught up a single news event, merits an article.
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applies. Looking at the earlier coverage, she's had some attention from reliable sources, but all pretty minor and cursory; not enough to pass the notability test, I think. The question to ask in these cases is 'if it hadn't been for the recent event, would we have had an article on the person?' and
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I am not desperate to "win", are you desperate to keep every article you come across? I am interested in exposing bad arguments, especially those that appear to be intentionally deceptive. Two examples of local news does not magically equal "significant coverage", and more than 2 plus 2 can equal
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The arguments for "keeps" are basically saying that she was notable before this event as a result of the Emmy nominations and her career. (Incidentally, the fact that she works for a major CBS affiliate does not, in and of itself, make her notable). The arguments against this is that the nominations
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Firstly, I would like to thank everyone who has commented here. Your opinions (including the responses to other people's comments) were invaluable. This is the strength of the AfD process - it allows discussion to take place, and a truly community-based decision to be made. So thank you everyone who
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When I nominated this, I really didn't see that much controversy with it. But I am neither a deletionist nor an inclusionist and if people are hell bent on keeping it, I don't feel compelled to push the matter any farther. If somebody else does, fine. It is not that important enough an issue for me
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I would disagree in part with that. The notability guideline isn't terribly well defined for journalists, but along with others who are known more for their body of work than for their own personal exploits, journalists' notability is derived at least in part for the influence of their reportage.
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to yourself. It should be discounted because it is trivial and routine. Absent this brief episode of on-air confusion, aphasia, or whatever it was, no one would be digging up in long-forgotten news blurbs or crowing over non-notable regional Emmys for a regional news reporter. This article is a
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essay, and did not say "Crummy article X exists, so this one should stay." Rather I noted that this article has at least a couple of in depth cases of coverage of the person, prior to the recent widespread publicity, and that prior to the recent newsevent she had a small claim to notability, along
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Even if you "DONTLIKE" articles about someone who has minor notability, followed by worldwide coverage due to some Youtube-esque episode, please do not descend to the tactic of denigrating significant coverage in reliable and independent sources as a "smattering of local dribble," when the nature
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determines that this beautiful reporter's prize is "not notable". And what have you won, Safiel? What national prizes have you won, you lazy armchair prat? This is a classic example of the talentless morons who dictate their biased and unfair views on Knowledge. If you weren't posting on Knowledge
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She is a reporter at a major network-affiliated station in a major U.S. media market; there are dozens of Knowledge articles on persons at a comparable level of notability. Obviously, the article needs to be developed beyond the story of this one incident and needs relavent facts from verifiable
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Oh, BS. No consensus findings are a weak cop-out, it's like basketball refs handing out double-technical because they don't ant to take the time or make an effort to see who the instigator was. Evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the arguments, discard the junk that falls back on rote
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I'm not saying the emmys are an ideal indicator of notability, but I think that she'd achieved some notability for those emmys prior to the event which spurred the creation of this article. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think in this case, one plus one equals two, with two being
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be coming from people disgusted with the sensationalist media circus surrounding this one event. This would be a completely different discussion if it were a random person caught on camera in the midst of a medical event, even if the news had picked it up and ran with it (because of
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As already discussed above, her nominations for the Emmy awards count as something, as are her other awards. The article is about her, not the Grammy Awards incident. See Vendetta's reasoning above. I'm completely neutral about the topic, and I don't care either way, but that is my
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third party sources like DOB and more career info, but most articles are not born full-grown. Why not leave it for a while and see what develops; if in a few weeks or months there is little of merit beyond this incident in the article, then RFD would be completely in order.
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ttonyb your play on words, witty as it may be, does not help your case. Fairnessprevails is entitled defend his/her standpoint in this matter. If you find this disagreeable then I recommend you disregard Fairnessprevails comment. Others may find it completely valid.
482:. She may well be non-notable under the applicable Knowledge standards, but in fairness, it should be noted that last night's incident has been reported in hundreds of reliable sources, nationally and internationally, in addition to hundreds of unsavory gossip sites. 488:
However, I haven't been able to track down independent confirmation of the Emmy nominations mentioned at her station bio, and it appears to me that the "Frank Shakespeare Award" mentioned there is a student award given by the Institute on Political Journalism of the
2533:. There is nothing notable here. This article is merely a news story, and a minor one at that. In a short time no one is going to look at it. I have no doubt that there are numerous WP articles of the same level of notability, but that is no reason to keep another. 2601:. The large amount of video material that is comprised of her KCBS reports is not a primary source that supports her, but rather they are primary support for the events she was covering. Being part of a "well-organized TV station" is not one of the criteria in 2207:. Local Emmy is not enough for notability; she's just a news reporter who suddenly went viral because of one incident, and the incident itself is fiarly minor. The RS coverage only talks about the incident in question, not about Branson as a person herself. 1048:
with the fact that this bio article has better reliable sourcing than thousands of article found in AFDs about the classes of article subjects I mentioned. Please do not clutter the debate by strawman arguments in which you put words in someone else's mouth.
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This personal attack by Fairnessprevails against myself appears to be the only edit by this editor. Moreover, he takes a swipe at Mr. Wales. Since he apparently has plenty of rope and seems to be intent on hanging himself, I won't say anything more about it.
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argument by similar earlier coverage. The fact that the earlier coveerage is "years old" is absolutely not an argument for deletion when such a person gets widespread newscoverage later. Notability is not temporary, and coverage from years ago is fine.
1136:- borderline notable at best, but frankly we have 100s if not 1000s of TV news reporter articles like this and nobody cares a whit about them. At least (as we all know how the !votes are going to go), don't delete until the 7 day AfD period is over.-- 124:
in the 'delete' camp, as the nominator. Although s/he said that it should be closed as no consensus, this is not the same as saying "I now think that it should be kept" - if this assumption is incorrect, then please accept my apologies.
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I appreciate that however I had closed this AfD (delete, keep, no consensus) then it would be controversial! I trust that this fuller-than-usual explanation of the thoughts behind my decision will be beneficial to all contributors.
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Your claim is simply fraudulent. What we have are two small articles from the same local (sacbee.com) source. That does not even remotely satisfy "multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources".
1498:. I pretty much agree with Tarc. If it wasn't for the recent event she would not be notable. The earlier coverage is neither substantial nor widespread, being typical local coverage of TV reporters. This would not have passed 1452:, and in cases where youtube, etc...personalities have become worthy of Wikpedia articles, it is due to them being covered by those other sources. EVEN RS coverage isn't enough for an article, as in this case it is only a 1075:
That's a persistent issue. Whereas the problem is sometimes that the event itself is so trivial that no major reliable sources cover it, in other cases like this one the event itself is notable (or would be but for
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I have !voted "weak delete", but I certainly agree with Milowent that this AfD should run the full 7 days; by then we may have a better idea of whether this is going to gain traction that would make notability more
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Regarding "dozens of Knowledge articles on persons at a comparable level of notability", can you show where? If there are, perhaps these need to be evaluated for notability concerns as well, but going by
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A non-notable reporter who is sadly receiving a ton of coverage for an unfortunate one event she was the focus of. Also remember, working for a big company is not a reason for notability, as described in
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In my last 20 AFD !votes, I see 7 "Keeps" and 13 "Deletes," clearly the index of a rabid Inclusionist, who is "intentionally deceptive" by including links to newspaper articles, rather than ranting.
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None of that confers notability, just standard blurbs on a minor reporter. Oh, she left one job for another? Woo hoo....local, trivial coverage. Stop trying to squeeze notability out of nothing.
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If this were a straight vote, then it would be numerically 25 deletes - 24 keeps - 1 other. If I ignored the "less weight" arguments discussed above, it would numerically be 23 deletes - 16 keeps.
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She had some claim of notability before the vocal flubadub, since there had been multiple news coverage about her, not merely by her. See the pre-flub Google News Archive results for 2005-2010:
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claim. A handful of editors are engaging in a form of revisionist history, trawling through weak, years-old name-droppings to try to build this person up to be more than she actually is.
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Two nominations for the same piece, one that resulted in a win, in the Los Angeles Area Emmy awards. This is interesting, but probably not the type of significant award or honor that
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of them. Maybe it's just me though. Personally, I don't have a TV, saw this reporter's name and wanted to read about her, bringing me to Knowledge. Isn't that what we're for?
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We really can't count youtube and other viral video creations as assertions of notability though, those are user-generated/submitted things. Notability is established by
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notability. I'm also not going to be upset if this article is deleted. While I think it should be kept, the consensus may go the other way, and that's fine with me.
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Even if we get 3rd party verification of the emmy nom, it probably wouldn't show notability, since it's probably a regional emmy, given for local news coverage. --
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Arguments presented by editors/IPs with few or no edits outside of the article and the AfD, although this only accounted for 8% of the total number of contributors
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to back their desire to delete a case like this where someone had a bare claim to notability before they were in the news worldwide for several news cycles, like
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The coincidence of a significant neurological event being widely televised with Ms. Branson's already extant fame merits a keep. Users will want to find this. --
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before you continue contributing to Knowledge. I will make sure you have been left a Welcome message on your talk page that contains a number of useful links.
2186:. Were this just a viral video, she wouldn't be notable, but the level of continuing, substantive RS coverage is more than enough to demonstrate notability. 1328:
Don't delete it until we know all the details about what really happened. Then if it turns out it was her just flubbing her words, then delete it of course.
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are for regional Emmys not national ones (which do not give the same level of notability) and that the coverage of her career prior to the event is minimal.
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requires only multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources, which is satisfied. An entire article is not trivial coverage.
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justification is enough. Besides this, millions of people will be looking for information on the event from Knowledge, this is, afterall, it's purpose.
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and the teaching possibilities of this because of it's rarely being caught on video and her young age. People will be looking for a Knowledge article.
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and quality of coverage is better than that of countless localities, politicians, high schools, and professional athletes who had a moment in the sun.
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As shown above, she had multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable and independent sources before the recent worldwide news coverage.
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or any other notability criteria. Additionally, because notability is not inherited, neither is being part of or associated with something.
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The reporter was interviewed tonight on ABC Evening News; and Entertainment Tonight (ET), also on ABC, had two segments with an interview.
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The two newspaper articles (far more than "name-droppings") and the local Emmy nomination are a weak claim, but hardly "no claim" unless
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even hints at your argument that "you're a reporter for a huge organization, therefore you're notable and deserve a Knowledge article."
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As there is clearly no consensus either way, and there clearly won't be a consensus, I think we can safely close this as no consensus.
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As this is going to be controversial, I thought I would give a more detailed explanation of my reasoning than I would usually do!
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As the original nominator, there clearly will be no consensus on this and I think we can go ahead and close as no consensus.
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Article was hastily added after incorrect reporting of an on air incident. Proposing for deletion as a non notable reporter.
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Interesting point about the DRV, and this discussion was started before anyone could make an informed decision.  Please see
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refute that. Unless she becomes a national network reporter, she isn't notable; local reporters are generally not notable.
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She has been around as a reporter for quite a while and might have a scintilla of notability apart from last night's scare.
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Also, the Frank Shakespeare award she won is in itself non notable and not sufficient to establish her notability.
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We do not have an article on y, so we should not have an article on this. –GetRidOfIt! 04:04, 4 April 2004 (UTC)"
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I did not discount them completely, but I felt that they were lesser arguments than others that were presented.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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a numerical vote - it is the arguments which are important, and so I had to look at the main issues here.
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Almost all of the "deletes" say that it is (and/or that the event is the notable thing, not the person).
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has been revised to raise the bar. In previous cases, others of slight notability have avoided the
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is not appreciated nor acceptable on Knowledge. If you think it is, then I suggest you also read
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Your claim of fraud is an unwarranted personal attack, and shows how desperate you are to "win."
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I didn't say it should be discounted because it is "years old", so please, keep the servings of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
1983:. Not notable other than for the single garbled on-air appearance. This is a classic case of 1549:. This is a BLP1E, and a somewhat negative one at that; there are no grounds for keeping it. 2859: 2814: 2768: 2708: 2659: 2559: 2351: 2119: 2111: 1992: 1967: 1845: 1834: 1822: 1770: 1439: 1053: 1010: 965: 937: 894: 865: 836: 803: 762: 419: 395: 371: 321: 2782: 2760: 2699: 2515: 2501: 2381: 2293: 2208: 2204: 1984: 1946: 1928: 1874: 1728: 1701: 1647: 1580:. Other keep votes try to argue there's lots of reporters with articles, but the list at 1527: 1511: 1503: 1020: 917: 715: 496: 182: 2833: 2731: 2681: 2629: 2454: 2310: 1892: 1686: 1461: 1385: 1230: 1205: 1159: 1101: 1080: 992: 951: 880: 851: 817: 500: 250: 242: 2892: 2825: 2763:, but whatever closure happens it's going to get DRVed. This is one of those things. 2695: 2602: 2598: 2594: 2534: 2385: 2077: 2048: 2027: 2013: 1905: 1805: 1784: 1589: 1550: 1532: 1499: 1315: 1234: 1138: 1076: 1019:
So you're using a OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument to justify the existence of this article?
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and some level of discretion here may suggest that deletion is the best course.--
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http://www.emmys.tv/2009/61st-los-angeles-area-emmy%C2%AE-awards-nominations
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Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review on 2011 February 25
Knowledge:Deletion review
deletion review
PhantomSteve
talk
contribs
00:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Safiel
One Event
ONEEVENT
PhantomSteve
talk
contribs
00:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Serene Branson
Serene Branson
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Google
books
news

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