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488:– SkyscraperPage and SkyscraperCity (the larger of the two) repeatedly come up for deletion and one is kept and one is tossed for generally weak and arbitrary reasons. I had suggested merging the two with Skyscraper, but no one found them useful enough to one-liner them on that page - also for arbitrary reasons. Both these sites are like Knowledge (XXG) - they are encyclopedias of the worlds skyscrapers and they are referenced in many publications and in articles, here. Are there third party citations beyond footnoting Skyscraper photos and basic specifications, no. Are these "encyclopedias" more encyclopedic than who got 6th place on America's got talent? At the very least, we should treat the sites equally. 683:
I was persuaded by the NYTimes story already on the page "skyscraperpage.com, a Web site that tracks major buildings around the world," this validates the site and provides a useful description of it. (This page gets ~800 hits a month; users apparently want to know what SkyscraperPage is.]] Page is
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The ChicagoBusiness link is simply a few paragraphs and it's not actually convincing, the same can be said for the DJCOregon which is simply guiding through what there all is to say about the company, but not substance, it also seems like a questionable source given it hints at local-focused PR.
453:– The previous AfD is nine years old, so referring to it seems, erm, out-of-date. On the other hand, the "keep" arguments from the 1st & 2nd AfD are even more pronounced now. Note that there are articles on 8 other Wikipedias and then there is the template 232:
please especially considering the last AfD was closed as Deleted, as (1) the current links are simply mere mentions actually and then my searches aren't finding anything actually better aside from mentions. Notifying the only still active AfDers
494:– There is little to write about this website (either one) but it probably deserve mention somewhere on Knowledge (XXG). I'd open a new subsection on Skyscraper, or if that seems like too much, list both sites as resources on that page. 659:
to closer - Considering the previous AfDs, this is not an easy clpse thus this is either best relisted or at least closed (but not as Keep given there is not a significant amount confidently voting as such) and renominated may be best.
436:, I think the fact that it's spun as a forum first and foremost gives it a bad rap. It is a data mining information website that includes illustrations of its subjects. Also what does it hurt? (A general inclusionist point to note) 197: 95: 90: 85: 325: 150: 267: 538:... but that doesn't seem like quite enough. It's ubiquitous enough that I'd like to see more sources rather than delete, but can't sufficiently substantiate a keep !vote. — 342: 296: 588:
that not merely are the images produces by the site reproduced, but that the site is credited with driving news cycles on new high-rise development in stories like this
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I do not find these links persuasive. The forum is mentioned / cited to in the press, but not discussed as an entity.
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of sources which cite this, which would help notability if it were a publication, but there's just not all that much
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it that I can find. It's a difficult search, though, because there are just so many hits. I did find bits at
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notwithstanding, deleting an article about such a widely used website seems unhelpful. Also: shouldn't
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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validated by the use of info from this site in books on urban development and planning
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Comment: these are more convincing, as they discuss the site itself, i.e.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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have been notified? They list that site under "Resources". --
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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