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Journal of Medicine, Volume 299 August 24, 1978) which is related to the gearbox of specific models of Triumph sports cars being adjacent to the footwell and convenient for the driver to rest the knee of the left leg on (RHD models only, naturally). The vibration from the gearbox affected the nerves in the leg to such an extent as to give rise to palsies in a sufficient number of patients for the problem to be isolated and described." This condition appears to be specfic to vibrations from certain cars. However, I cannot access the one medical journal that seems to address this issue.
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The issue is this: is the ref. in the article, "Massey EW, Pleet AB. Sports-car palsy. N Engl J Med. 1978 Aug 24;299(8):425" relevant? Would someone who knows about the issue please answer that. I was going to close this discussion. The consensus is to delete, but this late reference may demonstrate
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