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page?). What I was attempting to illustrate is that instead of deleting the fashion designer sections, they should be higlighted for more contributions, as this seems to be an area largely overlooked by wiki editors. How can we get more focus onto these pages? All of these designers are influential members of the global design community, and are very well known, even if standard news publications don't feature them. They are all featured frequently in printed and digital fashion journals, and even have their own books published. I mentioned before that Recht was on the cover of the the
Gestalten Icelandic design book, and is considered the best internationally known Icelandic designer.
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Requested Articles workshop to make sure that it passes muster before being reinstated.
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Other very well known fashion designers pages are similarly "unreliable" by your standards, even though Sruli Recht is very well known in the fashion business world. It is possible that the general wiki editor's field of interest are various and rarely fashion oriented, which makes the subjects less
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Knowledge is huge. There are millions of users on millions of topics. There is not a good way to keep track of who the prominent or active ones are on any particular subject, except by looking at who is editing random articles on that subject. Check the wikiproject etc. However, if you are going to
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Antipodium and Saberi for speedy deletion as entirely promotional, tho at least for Antipodium an article could probably be written. If the speedys are declined, I'll do some drastic stubbification or nominate them here. As for the others mentioned, Owens has a major award, though better
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vote if it is majorly rewritten and reformatted. There is quite a bit of coverage on Google News, including articles specifically about Recht, in various languages. I don't immediately see anything on Google Books (some
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Business times, Huffington post, has a dedicated segment on TYT, the worlds biggest online news... the list goes on. We could find and add a heavy amount of references from printed fashion journals if necessary, but there would be more references than
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Every single point comes directly from a reputable source. There are 93,300 google hits on the subject, as well as published books, including the
Gestalten publishing book on Icelandic fashion design, which has a Sruli Recht photograph as the cover. This designer has been noted in some of these
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link is number 12. The brassknuckle umbrella was significant news, covered in every news paper in
Iceland and on all news networks. The age article I see is dated from 2005, which shows many years active. I understand your points on the other designers (Did you take a look at the Jorundsson
751:- Oh my! I am late to the party, I see. Looking at Sruli Recht, the article needs major work as it has a lot of formatting/sourcing issues (including bare URLS, heavy use of external links, etc.). However, looking at the actual content, I think I can see enough to lean towards a
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Yes I saw that last week, but nothing has been heard from the fashion wikiproject in 8 days. Are there regular contributors there, or a prominent editor? Saberi has been deleted, which is unfortunate due to his relevance and influence in the fashion world compared to pages like
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