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you have no clue of how the digital sales in books work. All you guys know is delete. I wonder if any of you even know what it takes toget to the top 100 most popular authors, this is not an ordinary ranking by amazon. Anyone who is in the list for more than a year would have sold over 500k. I think you guys will be moer happy if this is deleted much like the crufixiation of christ. Good guys being beaten to death. Most of what you are citing will not be accepted if you cease to be an admin or editor you claim power because you are operating inside that perhiphery if you come out of it for a second all what you have written will not hold good. I dont think this is good for wikepedia because none of you are taking any pains in asking authors who haev sold more than a million books in kindle or apple about this issue. I wish all of you good luck and i think it is good for the author to stay away from wikepedia. Wish you all good luck.
1469:- "Though this is my first post, I wanted to comment a bit on this discussion. I have been an author for over 40 years with bestsellers to my credit and books in various languages (Spanish, French, Italian, Turkish, Romanian, English, Korean and others) so I know a bit about authors and books. I have met Sri Vishwanath twice in the past decade and found him to be one who desires to help humanity through his writings, lectures and teachings. I have read a number of his books and recommended them to many others. Although there are pros and cons in any argument or discussion, I still believe, as the late Dr. Thomas Dooley once said, 'It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.' Let Sri Vishwanath continue to share his message with those who may need the help. We all are free to read or not read his works, to believe or not believe his messages. --
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Knowledge (XXG), which the author fails. Again, nobody is questioning whether or not he's an author. We're questioning whether or not he's notable per Knowledge (XXG)'s guidelines, not any personal criteria on your or my end. I will open up a 3rd party page to mediate, but I very seriously doubt that they will agree that Amazon sales count towards notability here on Knowledge (XXG), given that it's been discarded as an argument for notability here on Knowledge (XXG) multiple times. I do accept your apology, but please try to be more polite when commenting. I know it must be frustrating when you try to argue a point and get told that it doesn't count towards notability, but the fact is that Amazon sales and sales in general mean little to nothing here on Knowledge (XXG).
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i think you please research this three sites pixel of ink, ereadernewstoday they are more big than any coverage and consists of all
American readers. Their endorsment are far superior than even New york times please understand please go through those two sites talk to them email them. He does figure in wikepedia's "notable author" we have to jsut approach it from a fresh pair of eyes. It is not one book the author has written thirteen books, and we need a publishing expert and a wikepedia authority to close this issue it is very sad if this guy does not make it. it will not do anything to him or me personally but it would be a sad case of wikepedia denying the right people the platform it has meant to provide and that would be very very very bad....
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traditional Indian material,for which I would extend great flexibility, but rather self help material published by an indian author, but aimed at the ordinary
American market, and distributed in the common way for self-published material on the web, We have not normally considered downloads or amazon sales as representative of best seller status in any true sense, or as evidence of notability, unless they have been recognized as such by the usual reliable sources not connected with the author or his distributor. Tokyogirl well explains some of the technical reasons why we have difficulty using this sort of data. The sort of RS information that we would need is totally lacking here.
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has got outsstanding content, is an expert on the subject and has got a huge readership. I dont know what else makes a author notable. So please dont try to kill this whole thing based on ego issues. The author is notable and you cannot consider him non-notable under any means except through judgemental thinking. I would like experts in publishing industry to view this and comment not admins and editors because they dont seem to get the point and keep saying it is not notable as per wikipedia guideliness. That is not right. Guidelines is always subtle and needs experts on the subject. There is no reason on earth the author be denied the wikepedia platform based on the reasons stated above
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read who are worthy of reading. I would suggest someone senior looks at it as there is no reason not to mention this author. Every proof suggests he has a case and you are just defending your own claims. Any person who has written one book will blindly understand what an author means. Anyone who has 100 readers will understand what an author means. You can take this claim to any of the top 100 authors and ask them if this guy meets the criteria of notable authors and all of them will agree. You are denying the results and proof and basing your arguments simply on your power to comment. that will not go anywhere. We need an aribitator to solve this issue
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kindle. There are hundreds of authors who have sold over a million copies. please do some research. Think about it. Amazon has had over a billion kindle sales so far, and if a person is listed in the to 100 for a year do some maths and you will know 400k download is a small figure. Do one more thing every day monitor whether the author is in top 100 or not do it for a year and you will find 365 days out of 365 he is in top 100. check the link do some research please dont think the old way things have changed
819:) Now when it comes to claims of Jack Canfield giving a testimonial, you'd have to first prove that he actually did give a testimonial and you'd have to prove that it's more than just a book blurb. By that I mean that it's an actual review of Vishwanath and his work and not just a few sentences that you'd find on the cover of a book. These blurbs are so commonplace in the book world that they've long since stopped being anything that would really give notability here on Knowledge (XXG), if they ever did.
667:- Reddog and Peter Wesco I might be new but that does not take away the essence of what I am writing because the author does meet all the criteria listed in your conditions. Please read it out of love and don’t just brush it away. Every new author who has made it big internationally with sales figures and book rankings needs to get a start. So please go through the links. It is a reqest reddog and peter. appreciate your time
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most popular authors for more than 18 months. Please wake up and go through the link. Yesterday he was 72 today he is 45. It is a shame that one is not conversant with the happenings of the industry and the changes and has view points which are absolutely baeless. take a look at the link below. he is no 45. Please read.
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clear and they dont accept paid ads my dear. Try to list one book of yours in a year you will fail. They go only by merit. U can submit as many times none of yours will be featured. It is not that you pay them. You are sitting in a cave. www.pixelofink.com is ranked no 7440 in Alexa,ereadernewstoday.com is 6993
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It seems this is not a discussion panel this is more of opinions which are hard wired. I have a simple question for all of you guys get into the top 100 most popular authors and stay there for a year in amazon. I find this an absolute waste discussing here because you write as if you know so much but
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What more do you want. You want Jack canfield, Mark Victor Hansen to write to wikepedia and tell you come on tell what you want but please understand that press coverage is not waht makes an author today that age is gone... It is readership and readership alone and digital sales rules. Please wake up
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2) How do we know that he's actually had almost a half a million downloads in the last year? That's not exactly a small number and that number is far more than some of the NYT bestselling authors do in a year. Since you're saying that he's had that many downloads, it's a bit fishy that he'd have that
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thanks what sort of proof do you want in addition. if you are the admin i can provide graph screenshots from sri's account that will set everything to rest about numbers. cannot provide that here because it is confidential but can certainly provide it via email. what other source do you need because
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You perhaps answered your own question which is precisely what i am saying. U are not in tab with the current industry. Please dont be so rude on someone because you have no idea of the industry. Traditionally coverage is done only for paperback sales through NYT new authors are killing it in amazon
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and he fails notability guidelines. You could present the Amazon website as an argument over and over again and it would still fail to show notability. People have presented this argument in AfD many, many times before and in a more succinct and polite manner. It didn't work then and it won't work
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Amazon's last year sales were $ 30 billion and you are saying it is not a reliable source. You must be in a cave to make such a statement. One million kindles are sold every two weeks. Regarding manipulation you can manipulate something for a day or two not for long. Sri has been in the top 100 in
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The word notable is based on quality of content and commercial/social applicability. This discussion will become only personal with more arguments. Author is an author and if you dont give weightage to Amazon when it says "Most popular authors" it is not right. "Most popular means " those who are
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Sri has written eleven books and his book “The Secret of Bhagavad Gita and “The Power of Vedas” are considered path breakers in the field of Vedanta and you can see that he is many times listed on side with peers like Eknath Easwaran. You will see that his two books including 7 common signs of a
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a "platform", the argument that "admins and editors" should not comment on an AfD (or should be given little weight if they do) and that WP guidelines should not be used as the basis for discussion is an interesting one, but I fear it may fundamentally misunderstand the nature of WP. Sorry.
1024:, that we move any further debating to either a user talk page (you can use mine, if you like) or to the talk page of the article itself. I don't want to bog down the AfD with paragraphs and paragraphs of text that just repeat the same thing over and over again. 07:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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due to a lack of independent coverage. That's undeniable and there's no reason for the discussion to move beyond that. What does call for scrutiny is the outrageous behavior of those pushing for the article to be kept; for such an obvious issues of
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That is why i say you dont read. The category he is competing is the strongst. it is stress management have a look . there is dale carneigie, spencor johnson . u must be kidding to say all this please wake up dude and get this thing rolling
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And one mor thing i am sorry when i said " living in a cave" if that hurt you a thousand apologies. did not mean that. i love you as a human being we are humans first and then what we are. so very sorry for that.
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