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297:. Does not appear to be enough nontrivial reliably sourced content to justify an independent article. This has been the outcome of most recent AFD discussions for less prominent Playmates as well the way most recently named Playmates have been handled. I don't believe the article is established as sufficiently identical to the version deleted 7 years ago to justify a G4, but it is very interesting to see that there had been a consensus that long ago that Playmates weren't notable for that status alone. 572:— due diligence is not being done when these tools are being used in this way. "Shoot them all and let the saps at AfD sort them out," is apparently the line of thinking. While I am personally sympathetic to the idea of a very high bar for so-called "Porn Bios," this blasting of 100 articles at the rate of 1 per minute, judging from the time logs, is not conducive to the spirit or practice of AfD. It is putting 325:. Redirecting non-notable articles to Listings of a subject which has been found to be non-notable is absurd. Playmate-hood, being inherently non-notable, does not prop up this article, nor can it prop up a List of playmates. Redirecting to non-notable lists only makes work for Admins who will have to delete these redirects later. Also, significantly, this is an inadequately-sourced BLP in a controversial area. 577:
sororities. The net result of these efforts was a lot of lost time by article creators and AfD participants and a lot of lost information from those articles annihilated as part of these campaigns. Meanwhile, the backlog of crap at New Pages festers. Something needs to be done about this problem. Mine is not a unique view — see
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ahead of the established article deletion process and is disrespectful both to the work of article creators and those of us who volunteer our time at AfD. We have seen similar automated mass annihilation efforts recently against modern Trotskyist political organizations and against fraternities and
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This should have been done after consensus determined Playmate-hood's non-notability. Other projects can cover this material, Knowledge (XXG) consensus has determined that Knowledge (XXG) is not that project. Should sourcing and claim of notability sufficient for Knowledge (XXG) later be found, the
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There's no significant coverage. The majority of the Google News hits (about three times as many as for this Playmate, by my rough count) refer to a college athlete. Of what's left, almost all of them mention her in passing, on the order of "also on hand at the boat show/casino promotion/autograph
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is not an award: It's a strategic commercial decision made by Playboy Corporation about how to better commercialize it products. Regardless of how much some Wikipedians love Playmates, we should write articles about them only when they were covered by independent third part sources. Also, texts
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signing were Playboy Playmates A. B, and C." There is the standard hometown paper "Local Girl Poses for Playboy" story, which doesn't make a significant contribution to notability, and a one-line mention in a short piece on a country singer she briefly dated.
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does state that (even) if a given source isn't enough coverage, multiple sources may add up to demonstrate notability. I've repeated that point over and over where it applies. Haven't you noticed that I'm not challenging you on every single afd you posted?
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Naw. It's not about wanting to be mysterious. It's about the fact that I am lazy to copy and paste my reviewing workflow since you've afd'd 100 articles, and I'm going through each afd to review the coverage that does exist. The floor of
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Bellowello didn't show any coverage about her. He just stated it exists. Restating it here is supposed to make it sound more reliable? Why not just post (here or in the article) examples of such non-trivial coverage?
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Relisting notice. The assertion of sources has not been supported by actual citations. Please can we look at the claimed sources to reach a conclusion of whether they meet GNG? Thanks
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not add up to notability. Note 6 clarifies the depth of coverage issue. If all of the existing coverage was just a name then of course no bio could be reliably written.
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Just like in other playmate Afds, you prefer to keep the mystery than to backup your own assertions. You have been given the chance but you thrown it away. Again. --
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Seems plenty notable to me. And I agree automated tools should not be for mass deletions. That's an unfair burden shift to AfD editors.
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explicitly excludes trivial coverage. Being trivially mentioned in a thousand articles would not make you notable. That's right there on
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Yeah, and I verified the coverage existed by reviewing the hits through that Google news link. Other editors can go and do the same.
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at ANI. We need to keep them all as a matter of principle and ban the future use of automated tools in this way.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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This argument will be copied-and-pasted in the debate sections for all automated AfDs of this campaign.
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Please notice how this article was deleted before on the very same grounds, being now qualified for
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No BASIC does not explicitly exclude/disqualify anything. It acknowledges that added up trivia
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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but somehow you can only read what fits your desire to have a directory of playmates here. --
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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This nomination was made in violation of a still active topic ban
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Not only was Stephanie Playboy's 50th anniversary playmate
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Yes it disqualifies trivial coverage. We disagree here. --
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No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 654:This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing 388:Note: This debate has been included in the 365:Note: This debate has been included in the 367:list of People-related deletion discussions 387: 364: 342:Note: This debate has been added to the 77:Articles for deletion/Stephanie Heinrich 74: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 622:Stephanie Heinrich (2nd nomination) 272:and has plenty of coverage to meet 72: 24: 735:procedurally and substantively.-- 295:List of Playboy Playmates of 2001 1: 229:general notability guideline 317:article can be re-started. 779: 405:20:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC) 382:22:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 359:22:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 335:19:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 307:17:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 286:05:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 258:02:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 239:02:35, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 755:Please do not modify it. 745:17:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC) 726:17:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC) 696:02:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC) 223:solely related to their 60:05:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 668:10:25, 7 May 2011 (UTC) 650:16:47, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 633:16:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 618:16:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC) 596:14:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 543:20:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 529:20:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 511:20:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 488:20:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 468:20:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 454:20:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 440:15:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 425:15:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC) 344:WikiProject Pornography 71:AfDs for this article: 658:). 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