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262:- the exact birth date might not be essential, but an article about a person which doesn't even indicate from what part of the world he comes from and from what generation (is he 25 or 85?) is lacking fundamental information. In contrast, the humorous personal trivia in the (completely unsourced) "Personal Life" section are not relevant to the reader of an encyclopedia. This again raises the question why there should be a separate article besides 244:- most of the citations are about the company, not the person. Besides, the online sources have the character of press releases or "business listings" (not independent, critical reporting), for example none of them seems to mention competitors, and all the information seems to come from the company itself, so they fail 214:
RE: Written like an advert – Its not. There is nothing in there that is an opinion nor that sways your opinion. It’s pretty cut and dry. Look at other pages and compare. I see MANY bio pages with no sources and that are poorly written. Just because it was written by a professional, and not someone
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RE: Sources – The article is sourced to multiple trade articles (Mulitchannel News, Post and SCREEN Magazine) written about Mr. Arnold, supporting the info about what he does for a living AND at the same time, what makes him notable. What else in the article do you need
312:- Knowledge is always a work in progress and there are certainly other articles which have quality issues and should be deleted. You are welcome to help out by pointing out some of them. But this is not a valid argument to justify violations of Knowledge policies, see 283:
Dedicated to providing the highest quality music productions, easy and efficient access to syndicated production music libraries and superior customer service, Arnold has a well-established reputation for delivering the successful sounds that make a
403:: "Dedicated to providing quality... easy and efficient access... superior customer service... well-established reputation for delivering the successful sounds that make a difference" - none of those words backed up by the reference cited for them; 218:
RE: Stephen Arnold Music does exist as a page. However this is the company of Stephen Arnold and not about the man himself e.g., Donald Trump Organization is different to Donald Trump the man (and yes, both these seperate pages
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RE: Birth date/age/nationality – How is this really relevant? This info would not make the page any more interesting. He’s just a middle-aged Caucasian male and it does state that he is from Indiana in the
275:, you are quite obviously more familiar with the writing style of marketing texts than with the neutral, factual tone expected in an encyclopedia. To just quote one example from your text: 378:. What the company does is certainly notable, and its article could usefully be expanded (though preferably not by its own PR); but Mr Arnold's notability is what his company does, and 393: 124: 440: 337:
I am not sure if I am allowed to do this, so revert if I am not, but I think this needs to be relisted for more discussion since only 2 have commented.
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the product is more important to the company than making money?). "Superior" is an opinion that competitors might not agree with, so it violates
256:, it merely quotes Mr. Arnold saying that they try to create such sounds). Which makes one wonder if the offline sources are quoted accurately. 294:
in Knowledge. "successful" does mean what precisely? "Dedicated" is a typical advertising term (what does it really mean? that the goal of
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Arnold has a well-established reputation for delivering the successful sounds that ... "stick in a viewer's brain like chewing gum"
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remarks above, but I think the solution is to redirect to the company article, so that anyone searching the name will find that.
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The sources quoted are mostly about the company and what it does, not for the personal part of the article, which as
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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Biography, no independent sources, written like an ad, questionable notability.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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already exists, and the additional biographical information in
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off the street, the language should not be dumbed down.
119: 108: 104: 100: 353:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 477:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 441:list of Music-related deletion discussions 410:notes is oddly incomplete and trivia-like. 250:cited online sources in a misleading way 439:: This debate has been included in the 183:if not rewritten completely. Regards, 7: 246:Knowledge:COMPANY#Primary_criterion 24: 310:Look at other pages and compare 290:This is full of what is called 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 304:Knowledge:Conflict of interest 260:RE: Birth date/age/nationality 1: 252:(the source doesn't say that 415:In short, I agree 100% with 382:article has major problems: 272:- as Mr. Arnold's publicist 494: 151:Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) 459:20:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC) 429:19:57, 29 June 2008 (UTC) 363:18:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC) 331:12:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC) 233:17:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC) 193:20:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC) 163:22:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC) 141:21:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC) 61:01:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC) 470:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 179:is totally unsourced. 399:promotional tone and 394:Mr Arnold's publicist 390:conflict of interest 376:Stephen Arnold Music 264:Stephen Arnold Music 173:Stephen Arnold Music 50:Stephen Arnold Music 314:WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS 201:No need to Rewrite 44:The result was 461: 444: 366: 365: 221:No need to delete 485: 472: 456: 450: 445: 435: 392:- the author is 352: 350: 345: 122: 116: 98: 58: 34: 493: 492: 488: 487: 486: 484: 483: 482: 481: 475:deletion review 468: 454: 448: 346: 248:. And you have 225:Timesrunningout 118: 89: 73: 70: 54: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 491: 489: 480: 479: 463: 462: 432: 431: 413: 412: 411: 404: 397: 384: 383: 368: 367: 351: 343: 342: 339: 338: 334: 333: 319: 318: 317: 307: 288: 287: 286: 277: 276: 267: 257: 236: 235: 216: 212: 208: 198: 197: 196: 195: 177:Stephen Arnold 166: 165: 129: 128: 75:Stephen Arnold 69: 67:Stephen Arnold 64: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 490: 478: 476: 471: 465: 464: 460: 457: 451: 442: 438: 434: 433: 430: 426: 422: 418: 414: 409: 405: 402: 401:peacock terms 398: 395: 391: 388: 387: 386: 385: 381: 377: 373: 370: 369: 364: 360: 356: 349: 344: 341: 340: 336: 335: 332: 328: 324: 320: 315: 311: 308: 305: 301: 297: 293: 292:peacock terms 289: 285: 281: 280: 279: 278: 274: 271: 268: 265: 261: 258: 255: 251: 247: 243: 240: 239: 238: 237: 234: 230: 226: 222: 217: 213: 209: 205: 204: 203: 202: 194: 190: 186: 182: 178: 174: 170: 169: 168: 167: 164: 160: 156: 152: 148: 145: 144: 143: 142: 138: 134: 126: 121: 114: 110: 106: 102: 97: 93: 88: 84: 80: 76: 72: 71: 68: 65: 63: 62: 59: 57: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 469: 466: 436: 379: 371: 347: 309: 295: 282: 269: 259: 253: 241: 220: 200: 199: 180: 146: 130: 55: 45: 43: 31: 28: 449:Fabrictramp 223:. Regards, 455:talk to me 355:Finalnight 284:difference 133:NawlinWiki 321:Regards, 296:providing 372:Redirect 207:sourced? 159:archives 155:receiver 125:View log 46:Redirect 300:WP:NPOV 242:Sources 219:exist). 147:Rewrite 92:protect 87:history 421:JohnCD 417:HaeB's 270:advert 181:Delete 120:delete 96:delete 211:copy. 123:) – ( 113:views 105:watch 101:links 56:Nakon 16:< 437:Note 425:talk 408:HaeB 380:this 359:talk 327:talk 323:HaeB 229:talk 189:talk 185:HaeB 171:But 137:talk 109:logs 83:talk 79:edit 446:-- 374:to 48:to 452:| 443:. 427:) 361:) 329:) 231:) 191:) 161:) 157:, 139:) 111:| 107:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 85:| 81:| 52:, 423:( 396:; 357:( 325:( 316:. 306:. 266:. 227:( 187:( 153:( 135:( 127:) 117:( 115:) 77:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Stephen Arnold Music
Nakon
01:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Stephen Arnold
Stephen Arnold
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
NawlinWiki
talk
21:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV)
receiver
archives
22:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Stephen Arnold Music
Stephen Arnold
HaeB
talk
20:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

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