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Needs to be cleaned up and sourced, but neither feat should be too difficult. The character is important and clearly distinct from the real person, and therefore doesn't fit within the
Colbert's article (though I'll admit that the line between the two is more blurred than with traditional
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Knowledge (XXG) page. Only in this case both the actor and the character have the same name. And the information on the character is way too much for it to be merged with the main article.
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