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512:. In the Knowledge (XXG) guidelines, the criteria for notability do not appear to rely on a "notable history" or "extraordinary" accomplishments of a subject matter. It is reiterated, that according to the Knowledge (XXG) guidelines, this article fulfills the requirements for notability. The school has been the subject of significant coverage by reliable, independent sources. It is further added that the jist of the arguments to keep this article is not based on placing this school in a category of schools that have a notable history and are in some way "extraordinary". The purpose of this Knowledge (XXG) article is to include this school in the collection of schools already published on Knowledge (XXG) as a source of important information to the public. -- 323:: The school was named after a notable Canadian, Ottawa-native and graduate of a high school in the same Ottawa-Carleton District School board. This article has received almost 500 hits since its publication on Knowledge (XXG) a few days ago. The school is only a few years old, so it is not unexpected that it may not have as wide a presence on Google as other schools. This, however, does not trivialize its importance as a source of information to the community and public at large. The article is well written and has been edited to include several references to reliable third-party sources to make the information verifiable. Also refer to this template which lists other Ottawa-Carleton District School Board schools: 556:. The publication sources cited in this article have indeed addressed the school in detail (e.g. newspaper articles). It is true that many schools of the western world, including those which already have their own Knowledge (XXG) articles, are covered in regional or local media. However, regional coverage also counts towards notability. The Knowledge (XXG) guidelines states that "Evidence of attention by international or national, or at least regional, media is a strong indication of notability" 391:
The Knowledge (XXG) article has been further modified to highlight notable accomplishments and projects. The school has won various national and provincial awards. It is believed that the notability criteria have been met and the subject matter is worthy of notice. The information in the article is
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Age alone is not a defining element, but older schools are more likely to have notable histories. This is a new school without notable history (due to its age!) or architecture whose "achievements" include winning a couple of prizes, just like most other schools in the world. It has been mentioned a
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But I see no "significant coverage". I see a few articles about the school in local media. So what? That could apply to every single school in the western world. That's not significant coverage. That's ordinary, run of the mill coverage. Failing that, we must look for notability elsewhere, and
461:. The fact that this school is only 6 years old does not influence its notability. According to Knowledge (XXG) notability guidelines, a school is notable " if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject" 469:. There is verifiable evidence of coverage of this school and its notable accomplishments by reliable independent sources including the media and publications by nationally-known organizations. Therefore, the school is notable. -- 551:
means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material"
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Being named for a notable person does not make a school notable. Primary schools are generally not notable, and this one is not an exception. Being part of a template doesn't establish notability either.
327:. Many of these schools have published Knowledge (XXG) articles. The publication of Knowledge (XXG) articles on certain schools and not others, especially within the same school board could appear 392:
verifiable with multiple reliable third-party sources. Also, the school has and continues to receive significant detailed coverage in various publications and the media (see citations). --
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few times in local media, just like most other schools in the world. Being named after someone notable does not make it notable itself, as
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comes under arguments to avoid. Other non-notable primary schools in this school board will probably be dealt with in due course.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Contested PROD. Concern was: Non-notable K-8 school.
187: 414:, nothing extraordinary for an elemetary school. 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 603:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 276:list of Schools-related deletion discussions 274:Note: This debate has been included in the 256:list of Ontario-related deletion discussions 254:Note: This debate has been included in the 547:According to Knowledge (XXG) guidelines, " 273: 253: 325:http://en.wikipedia.org/Template:OCDSB 300:Ottawa-Carleton District School Board 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 492:. I repeat, it is not notable. -- 24: 1: 570:17:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC) 541:15:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC) 522:14:11, 16 November 2012 (UTC) 502:09:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC) 479:21:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 449:10:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 424:20:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 402:00:58, 15 November 2012 (UTC) 383:03:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC) 341:02:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC) 316:19:45, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 288:19:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 268:19:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 247:01:22, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 230:01:03, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 207:00:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC) 62:02:20, 20 November 2012 (UTC) 490:notability is not inherited 76:Steve MacLean Public School 68:Steve MacLean Public School 620: 531:frankly there is none. -- 592:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 410:That all falls under 358:few or no other edits 549:Significant coverage 360:outside this topic. 371:WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS 235:Delete and redirect 412:WP:Run of the mill 48:The result was 361: 298:to school board, 290: 270: 611: 594: 343: 228: 227: 215:- Not notable.-- 192: 191: 177: 129: 117: 99: 34: 619: 618: 614: 613: 612: 610: 609: 608: 607: 601:deletion review 590: 416:Dominus Vobisdu 239:Dominus Vobisdu 220: 216: 134: 125: 90: 74: 71: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 617: 615: 606: 605: 586: 585: 584: 583: 582: 581: 580: 579: 578: 577: 576: 575: 574: 573: 572: 525: 524: 482: 481: 452: 451: 433: 432: 431: 430: 429: 428: 427: 426: 405: 404: 386: 385: 363: 362: 329:discriminatory 318: 292: 291: 271: 250: 249: 232: 195: 194: 131: 70: 65: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 616: 604: 602: 598: 593: 587: 571: 567: 563: 559: 555: 550: 546: 545: 544: 543: 542: 538: 534: 529: 528: 527: 526: 523: 519: 515: 511: 507: 506: 505: 504: 503: 499: 495: 491: 486: 485: 484: 483: 480: 476: 472: 468: 464: 460: 456: 455: 454: 453: 450: 446: 442: 438: 435: 434: 425: 421: 417: 413: 409: 408: 407: 406: 403: 399: 395: 390: 389: 388: 387: 384: 380: 376: 372: 367: 366: 365: 364: 359: 355: 351: 347: 342: 338: 334: 330: 326: 322: 319: 317: 313: 309: 305: 301: 297: 294: 293: 289: 285: 281: 277: 272: 269: 265: 261: 257: 252: 251: 248: 244: 240: 236: 233: 231: 226: 223: 219: 214: 211: 210: 209: 208: 204: 200: 190: 186: 183: 180: 176: 172: 168: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 150: 147: 144: 140: 137: 136:Find sources: 132: 128: 124: 121: 115: 111: 107: 103: 98: 94: 89: 85: 81: 77: 73: 72: 69: 66: 64: 63: 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 591: 588: 548: 436: 328: 320: 295: 234: 212: 196: 184: 178: 170: 163: 157: 151: 145: 135: 122: 49: 47: 31: 28: 558:WP:ORGDEPTH 463:WP:ORGDEPTH 356:) has made 304:WP:ORGDEPTH 218:Sue Rangell 161:free images 533:Necrothesp 494:Necrothesp 441:Necrothesp 597:talk page 554:WP:SIGCOV 510:WP:ORGSIG 459:WP:OLDAGE 375:• Gene93k 308:• Gene93k 280:• Gene93k 260:• Gene93k 37:talk page 599:or in a 354:contribs 296:Redirect 199:Eeekster 120:View log 39:or in a 467:WP:CLUB 167:WP refs 155:scholar 93:protect 88:history 562:Lfroms 514:Lfroms 471:Lfroms 437:Delete 394:Lfroms 346:Lfroms 333:Lfroms 213:Delete 139:Google 97:delete 54:Drmies 50:delete 182:JSTOR 143:books 127:Stats 114:views 106:watch 102:links 16:< 566:talk 537:talk 518:talk 498:talk 475:talk 445:talk 420:talk 398:talk 379:talk 350:talk 337:talk 321:Keep 312:talk 284:talk 264:talk 243:talk 203:talk 175:FENS 149:news 110:logs 84:talk 80:edit 58:talk 189:TWL 118:– ( 568:) 539:) 520:) 500:) 477:) 447:) 422:) 400:) 381:) 352:• 344:— 339:) 314:) 306:. 286:) 278:. 266:) 258:. 245:) 222:✍ 205:) 169:) 112:| 108:| 104:| 100:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 60:) 52:. 564:( 535:( 516:( 496:( 473:( 443:( 418:( 396:( 377:( 348:( 335:( 310:( 282:( 262:( 241:( 225:✉ 201:( 193:) 185:· 179:· 171:· 164:· 158:· 152:· 146:· 141:( 133:( 130:) 123:· 116:) 78:( 56:(

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