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401:, which means that there was sufficient concensus to retain the article as opposed to insufficient concensus to delete it, as you stated (I guess it's a cup half-full vs. half-empty perspective). Since the article passed the notability criteria in the past and there has been significant additional notability added since that time, there should be no reason to re-nominate it for deletion. Your statement about "one self-published CD and an appearance in a children's theater production" really has nothing to do with the band's notability. Industry sponsorships (Sabian, Mapex, Ampeg), 379:, you will see that they are very strict, and that MOST articles that could qualify for deletion should not be speedily deleted. In fact, the only things speedy deletions come into play for is when an article doesn't even claim notability. Claiming notability at all, without a source, and regardless of the legitimacy of the claim, is supposed to negate speedy. One self published CD and an appearance in a children's theater production does not equate to notability.-- 374:
I am not sure if a salt is necessary but I wouldn't object to it as the article has been recreated. As for the previous nominations, they are not a test to be "passed" and the fact that the article was not deleted previously only means there was not sufficient consensus at the time. It is for that
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Another local article. I would disqualify PureVolume because any musician or band can create free bio and place it on the site. And boysoloist.com appears to be the same deal. Those sites are as credible as a MySpace page. Band does not pass any criteria for musicians and ensembles per
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Firstly, the article has not been recreated. It was reinstated after an improper speedy deletion - you stated yourself that the speedy was overturned - this does not constitute a re-creation. The second AfD decision was
89: 216:, didn't catch those sources on the first scan through! This is why we dont' edit when half asleep. Anyway, some of the sources look okay, but beyond that I'm not totally sold on the notability here. 353:
Above and beyond the clear consensus of Keep established at the previous AfD for the recreated article, the article as it stands provides ample reliable and verifiable sources to satisfy the
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reason that articles can be renominated in the first place. As for the speedy deletion being overturned, that means absolutely nothing. If you look at the
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This article was nominated two other times for deletion. The first time was a speedy and it was overturned. The second was an AFD and it was ruled as a
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and salt per nom. Tagged for A7; doesn't assert notability in any way. Note to deleting admin: Please see that the pics are deleted too.
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The band's exposure in national and significant regional media outlets lends credibility under general notability guidelines. -
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Sorry for changing my !vote twice, but on closer examination, there do seem to be enough reliable sources for this band to pass
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
269:. One is a local, but in combination with the others, seems to establish enough credibility to be notable. 381: 354: 428: 341: 257:
I just googled up (without checking article refs) and found a few interesting links: found reviews at
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spokesmanship, national TV appearances and production of a CD single by Grammy-winning producers
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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does seem to indicate that the band is, in fact, notable. Please note that user
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http://www.lakeoswegoreview.com/features/story.php?story_id=117875149166012100
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I created this AfD. And I still cannot find where this band passes
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Articles for deletion/Still Pending (4th nomination)
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Fram
talk
12:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Still Pending
Articles for deletion/Still Pending
Articles for deletion/Still Pending (2nd)
Articles for deletion/Still Pending (3rd)
Articles for deletion/Still Pending (4th nomination)
Still Pending
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:BAND
EndlessDan
18:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer
18:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer
18:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:MUSIC
Ten Pound Hammer

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