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480:(yes, an unfortunate sophomoric phrase) is ill-advised. Indeed, the content now makes it clear that only the symbol(s), not the phrase, deserved explanation; for, the obvious interpretation as plain English is adequate without mathematical elaboration. In retrospect, I suppose we could have sorted this out during the PROD waiting interval and avoided an AfD; 449:
or some such. I suppose I could live with a redirect there, if the main purpose is to help people find the symbol (though note that this is the symbol for "such that" in only one context; the phrase is used in other mathematical and non-mathematical contexts). The other thing I don't like about it is
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Articles about stylized constructions in mathematical discourse are in general hard to source and of marginal encyclopedic interest; in this case there's arguably no specialized meaning anyway, as the construction can be interpreted correctly in ordinary English.
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and learned that both : and | do the trick. I know my vote is – clearly – overshadowed, but it helped me and I really can't see the harm in keeping it. However, seeing as the information is readily available at the
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The article provides useful information about this important mathematical expression and it's usage. I got to the article in the first place, for instance, to learn what symbols are used to represent
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There actually is a peculiar way of using this phrase within mathematical jargon, as sometimes first seen when you're in 12th grade learning epsilon-delta definitions, but it's not worth an article.
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True, but when considering changing an article into a redirect, the current/former content of the article is irrelevant. The only consideration is whether it makes sense to redirect the
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is not completely terrible, but on balance I prefer for it to be a redlink, as there's not much sense in linking it (and it's a fairly implausible search term). --
201:. I don't like the redirect idea because the phrase is also used outside of the context of set builder notation, both in math and in common English usage. 352:
Oh, I agree that content is irrelevant when deciding where to redirect to. I was just explaining where the idea of 'perhaps we should redirect to
269:. "Such that" is about as encyclopedic as "it is." Do not redirect (its use in "set building" is not particularly unique or meaningful). -- 305:." But "such that" in this context isn't particularly technical or unique - it's just using two English words to mean what they mean. -- 399: 17: 476:, but given the subsequent discussion and given the revised content of the article I have come to agree that a redirect to 446: 83: 78: 281:
I don't see the connection to set-building. The meaning of "such that" seems closer to Hilbert's choice operator in the
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No room for expansion beyond a simple English dictionary definition. Any other content that's there now is already in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The connection is to so-called "set-builder" notation, in that a set is defined as "the elements x such that x
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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was totally about the little symbol in set-builder notation which is pronounced 'such that'. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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would have the disadvantage that 'such that' is not explained or defined in that article.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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in question to the article being proposed. Redirecting
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the phrase, which I think would be pretty silly. --
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 423: 513:). No further edits should be made to this page. 133:. No specialised meaning, obvious from context, 421:article, a redirect would work even better. » 8: 288:as a source for the "such that" connection. 237:per Trovatore and Jitse. A redirect to 7: 450:that it might encourage people to 24: 314:And in this particular case, the 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 318:that we were commenting on at 1: 447:table of mathematical symbols 495:11:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC) 459:03:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC) 438:22:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 405:03:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 381:17:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 361:20:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 348:17:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 327:17:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 310:15:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 293:16:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 274:06:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 258:06:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 246:01:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 230:01:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC) 213:23:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 186:23:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 162:21:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 146:20:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 123:19:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 53:01:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC) 530: 389:to set-builder notation. 506:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 385:Delete, I suppose, but 253:as per nomination. -- 478:set-builder notation 419:Set-builder notation 354:set-builder notation 341:set-builder notation 239:set-builder notation 199:set-builder notation 171:set-builder notation 445:I think we have a 427: 177:per discussion on 490:for "my bad"). -- 425: 410:Keep or redirect. 403: 211: 521: 508: 435: 429: 393: 316:previous version 283:Epsilon calculus 255:Mark H Wilkinson 205: 137:a dictionary. -- 108: 90: 34: 529: 528: 524: 523: 522: 520: 519: 518: 517: 511:deletion review 504: 387:do not redirect 81: 65: 62: 50:Fuhghettaboutit 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 527: 525: 516: 515: 499: 498: 497: 463: 462: 461: 407: 383: 370: 369: 368: 367: 366: 365: 364: 363: 312: 303:blah blah blah 296: 295: 276: 260: 248: 232: 215: 188: 183:David Eppstein 164: 151: 150: 149: 148: 115: 114: 61: 56: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 526: 514: 512: 507: 501: 500: 496: 493: 489: 485: 484: 479: 475: 471: 467: 464: 460: 457: 453: 448: 444: 441: 440: 439: 436: 430: 420: 415: 411: 408: 406: 401: 397: 392: 388: 384: 382: 379: 378:Michael Hardy 375: 372: 371: 362: 359: 355: 351: 350: 349: 346: 342: 338: 334: 330: 329: 328: 325: 321: 317: 313: 311: 308: 304: 300: 299: 298: 297: 294: 291: 287: 284: 280: 277: 275: 272: 268: 264: 261: 259: 256: 252: 249: 247: 244: 240: 236: 233: 231: 227: 223: 219: 216: 214: 209: 204: 200: 196: 192: 189: 187: 184: 180: 176: 172: 168: 165: 163: 160: 156: 153: 152: 147: 144: 140: 136: 132: 129: 128: 127: 126: 125: 124: 121: 112: 106: 102: 98: 94: 89: 85: 80: 76: 72: 68: 64: 63: 60: 57: 55: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 505: 502: 481: 472:'s original 465: 451: 442: 413: 409: 391:CRGreathouse 386: 373: 332: 302: 278: 262: 250: 234: 222:Jitse Niesen 217: 195:not redirect 194: 190: 174: 166: 154: 130: 116: 45: 43: 31: 28: 468:I blocked 414:such that, 243:EdJohnston 483:mea culpa 456:Trovatore 358:Sopoforic 345:Trovatore 337:such that 324:Sopoforic 157:per nom. 120:Trovatore 67:Such that 59:Such that 452:wikilink 307:Cheeser1 271:Cheeser1 167:Redirect 111:View log 443:Comment 374:Delete. 290:Leibniz 285:. See 279:Comment 193:and do 159:Leibniz 84:protect 79:history 466:Delete 320:WT:WPM 267:WP:NOT 263:Delete 251:Delete 235:Delete 218:Delete 191:Delete 179:WT:WPM 175:delete 155:Delete 135:WP:NOT 131:Delete 88:delete 46:delete 492:KSmrq 488:Latin 428:G O E 333:title 203:nadav 139:Taejo 105:views 97:watch 93:links 16:< 474:PROD 470:Carl 434:talk 265:per 226:talk 208:talk 101:logs 75:talk 71:edit 339:to 181:. — 173:or 169:to 109:– ( 48:.-- 431:| 424:K 398:| 228:) 143:대조 103:| 99:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 77:| 73:| 486:( 426:i 402:) 400:c 396:t 394:( 224:( 210:) 206:( 141:| 113:) 107:) 69:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Fuhghettaboutit
01:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Such that
Such that
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Trovatore
19:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
WP:NOT
Taejo
대조
20:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Leibniz
21:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
set-builder notation
WT:WPM
David Eppstein
23:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
set-builder notation
nadav

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