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decrease WP coverage of the field entirely, in good faith that it would benefit the encyclopedia? I know some people say they want to do this, but that would be a major policy decision that I do not think would be accepted. Doing it article by article is not acceptable either. What people read, film, and comment on in the real world is notable in the real world.
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literature on Carrie and the characters within. There aren't many characters within it and it is a very notable and influential book of the time. There will be enough detail of someone has some horror/etc commentary to add. The character also pervades several media (book and two films) which would
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real world content discussing the role in the different adaptations and sequels. This is the sort of information the fiction deletionists often ask for. An important character in a very important fiction. At least one academic source--the sort of source they ask for also. Is the actual motive to
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I'm the only one who has stated a desire to delete. I have not reiterated that statemente. The rest want to merge, redirect, which means the AFD will probably be closed as such, with the merging being left as an editorial decision to the editors of this article.
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because there is verifiable information here that is separate from the novel, a little of which I've added and sources for additional are available. The contention that the article contains no out-of-universe information is no longer true.
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be a a "main character" in the story and warrant its own page, even if all it contains is plot summary. However, as I've never read the book/seen the shows, I cant judge the importance of her character.
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