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366:. I do not accept that "lives are at stake here" - i.e. remove this article or people will die - a few moments playing with Google shows that information on suicide methods is widely available on the Internet. Anyone feeling suicidal will simply look elsewhere. In any case the article is not a manual. 196:
I get the anti censorship and anti disclaimer arguments, but lives are at stake here. Some of you may not care about this, but depressed people can and do use Knowledge (XXG) to learn about methods on how to commit suicide, including a suicidal member in my immediate family. With what we have seen
259:. However, these are editing issues and not deletion issues. Nominator's rationale seems to be based entirely on emotion, which despite his claims to the contrary, makes this a very typical censorship case, and on that issue I see no reason to defy established guidelines. 343:
It is not a 'how-to' just an article listing the most common types of suicide, and is presented in a way that is neutral. To delete it simply because it covers a sensitive topic would simply be censorship. We must keep it as per
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Article has content problems with respect to its scope--it is more like a general list of ways to die. It's also possible that any encyclopedic discussion of such methods can be merged to
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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per Chzz. Possibly speedy keep as no colourable argument to delete has been presented.
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and that prior consensus (clearly evidenced in earlier AfDs) has not changed.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The consensus is that the deletion rationale is not based in
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39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 393:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 93:Articles for deletion/Suicide methods/2 84: 324:. Knowledge (XXG) is not censored. -- 87:Articles for deletion/Suicide methods 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 82: 24: 201:for people committing suicide, 1: 410: 376:13:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 357:11:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 334:08:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 317:08:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 300:07:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 269:04:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 248:04:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 219:02:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC) 70:18:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC) 386:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 197:in the media about the 81:AfDs for this article: 234:as a way to backdoor 211:JustGettingItRight 298: 66: 62: 401: 388: 297: 295: 289: 283: 187: 181: 163: 67: 64: 60: 46:Speedy Keep per 44:The result was 34: 409: 408: 404: 403: 402: 400: 399: 398: 397: 391:deletion review 384: 293: 287: 284: 183: 154: 140:Suicide methods 138: 135: 133: 95: 79: 76:Suicide methods 58: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 407: 405: 396: 395: 379: 378: 360: 359: 346:WP:NOTCENSORED 337: 336: 319: 302: 280:WP:NOTCENSORED 272: 271: 250: 223: 199:copycat effect 194: 193: 134: 132: 131: 126: 121: 116: 111: 106: 101: 96: 91: 89: 83: 80: 78: 73: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 406: 394: 392: 387: 381: 380: 377: 373: 369: 365: 362: 361: 358: 354: 350: 349:Trevor Marron 347: 342: 339: 338: 335: 331: 327: 323: 320: 318: 314: 310: 306: 303: 301: 296: 291: 290: 281: 277: 274: 273: 270: 266: 262: 258: 254: 251: 249: 245: 241: 237: 233: 229: 226: 225: 224: 221: 220: 216: 212: 208: 204: 203:TIME magazine 200: 191: 186: 179: 175: 171: 167: 162: 158: 153: 149: 145: 141: 137: 136: 130: 127: 125: 122: 120: 117: 115: 112: 110: 107: 105: 102: 100: 97: 94: 90: 88: 85: 77: 74: 72: 71: 68: 55: 51: 49: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 385: 382: 363: 340: 326:Anna Lincoln 321: 304: 286: 275: 261:Ham Pastrami 252: 227: 222: 195: 45: 43: 31: 28: 364:Strong keep 322:Strong keep 305:Strong keep 276:Strong keep 228:Strong keep 190:View log 61:HEFFIELD 257:suicide 236:WP:JDLI 157:protect 152:history 48:WP:SNOW 309:Stifle 232:WP:IAR 207:WP:IAR 185:delete 161:delete 54:policy 288:Chzz 188:) – ( 178:views 170:watch 166:links 16:< 372:talk 353:talk 341:KEEP 330:talk 313:talk 278:per 265:talk 253:Keep 244:talk 215:talk 174:logs 148:talk 144:edit 65:TEEL 368:Jll 240:DSZ 374:) 355:) 332:) 315:) 294:► 267:) 246:) 238:. 217:) 176:| 172:| 168:| 164:| 159:| 155:| 150:| 146:| 370:( 351:( 328:( 311:( 263:( 242:( 213:( 192:) 182:( 180:) 142:( 63:S 59:S 50:.

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
WP:SNOW
policy
SHEFFIELDSTEEL
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Suicide methods
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods/2
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (4th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (5th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (6th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (7th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Suicide methods (8th nomination)
Suicide methods
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