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It looks like there are no references out there to prove notability, it has been 5 years since last AfD as Ash pointed out as well. The only thing that strikes me is why no needs reliable references tags were ever placed on this. Im going with delete because I trust the nom's findings (Or lack of). -
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for which this BBS was originally named after). All current references in the article are self published. Since the previous AfD discussion over five years ago, there have been no independent sources added to establish notability and there is little prospect of this situation changing. If the basic
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Actually I used Google and found that "freeshell.org" has 98,500 hits and just "freeshell" has 121,000. I see no reason to doubt the statement of
Slashme, who states its rather significant, nor that of those who edited the article in years past. Need to check to see how many people have used it
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Anyone can claim that, it doesn't make it so. Boasts from the people involved do not make something notable. This is elementary stuff here, such a claim requires reliable third party sources to prove it. use some of that common sense you keep suggesting other people use.
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