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439:- I think this page is extremely helpful. I have been following this project from the start and have always eagerly awaited new information about casting etc. It has my full support, I think the whole team of people involved should very proud. There are a lot of Superman fans out there who seem to only have negative things to say about anything related to Superman and still have the guts to call themselves fans. Surely if you're a fan you should support anything to do with the subject you're a fan of, not just beat down other peoples efforts to keep things alive. I say keep this page. For real fans of Superman it creates a great database of people to whom they will show their respect to, not beat down because they couldn't do any better. 276:- I don't care how much this movie seems to want to promote itself on Indie sites, it lacks any real independent sources and has a budget of $ 10k, all fan-raising on an indie film site. However...it may take off, and in which case, it will probably get smacked around for copyright violation pretty quickly, especially if they somehow successfully market it well enough that it gets independent coverage. Either way I'm pretty against it but I feel it should be given enough time to flop on it own before being deleted. 355:- The project commences filming in just a few weeks. As for promotion on indie sites, there has been very little self promotion, as all marketing has been limited to three press releases and two interviews - all other promotion is public interest. As for copyright violation, the project has been discussed at length with Warner Bros. and they are happy with it. I am able to supply documentation if required. 498:- this page even says it was submitted by a volunteer. I would wager that the "volunteer" is actually someone from the fan film's production. I could go through all of the other sources on there, but it's clear that they are not reliable. This page needs to be deleted, and only if there is actual real coverage of the completed product in a significant capacity (see 482:- I would love to know how a fan film could be notable before release (actually before filming, since it doesn't even claim to start filming until May or June), yet some of our high profile REAL films are not. Somehow, someone thinks this page is of the same notability as 586:- For those wondering how a fan-film could be notable before its release, the answer is that it would be notable the same way everything else generally is, and this is with significant coverage in reliable sources. In this case, there aren't any so it isn't notable. -- 387:
Yes I am involved, and with respect we really don't need Knowledge to promote it - promotion and public interest is high without needing Knowledge. If this is the case by all means delete it until it becomes more notable after release.
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as, at this point, a non-notable fan film that has yet to begin production. There also may be a concern since this appeared whole cloth in one edit along with a bio of the "producer" that was speedied as a copyvio.
527:- Agree with BigNole. And this is just another case of someone making a film, then trying to use one of the largest websites to promote it. Everyone that is associated with the film have 557: 216: 156: 123: 329: 458:- Film is totally non notable at the moment, and even full studio pics (except the biggest) can't fully justify an article prior to production starting ( 494:
is another fansite promoting a fan film. I cannot even find an 'About Us' section to determine what, if any, editorial oversight this page has.
462:). If it gets some real press coverage, maybe worth a try then. Hope it goes well anyway, I'd like to see it before DC/Warner get wind of it! 96: 91: 100: 83: 59: 177: 144: 17: 564:. The article should wait until it can be based on actual independent sources rather than PR and fan-driven information. 560:, I don't believe there is significant coverage in independent reliable sources -- a necessary criteria for avoiding 138: 635: 245: 36: 490:
appears to be a blog for the people making the film. I don't think self-published works establishes notability.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Err... not deleted. It was "kept" per the AFD, and subsequently there was merging and retitling of the article.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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and say it "might". Deletion at this point would ve without prejudice - the article could be resurrected
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And that begs a question: Are you directly involved in the fan film? If so this becomes a major case of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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that it will then be notable. It fails that right now, and we shouldn't plug in the
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trying to use Knowledge for your own benefit. I really suggest you read
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placing the unsourced information in other articles - it looks like you
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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You may not need it, but by creating the articles as you have -
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there will be more coverage aside from the self promotion.
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113: 109: 105: 169: 603:. Whpq put it best, I have nothing more to add. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 638:). No further edits should be made to this page. 502:) should it even be considered for existence. 414:with regards to this and your other edits. - 183: 8: 328:Note: This debate has been included in the 293:There's a big issue with that though: That 327: 330:list of Film-related deletion discussions 7: 24: 253:Oops... Boy is my keyboard red. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 309:the film is later notable. - 655: 577:21:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC) 547:04:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC) 518:03:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC) 473:08:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 449:22:29, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 424:00:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC) 398:21:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 383:21:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 365:21:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 345:18:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 319:21:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 287:11:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 263:22:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 249:21:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC) 229:23:26, 26 April 2011 (UTC) 207:23:05, 26 April 2011 (UTC) 631:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 621:20:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC) 596:15:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC) 236:But no... not deleted. 66:04:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC) 484:The Dark Knight Rises 371:conflict of interest 61:Operation Big Bear 44:The result was 515: 510: 347: 333: 219:this discussion. 80:Superman: Requiem 72:Superman: Requiem 646: 633: 619: 615: 608: 575: 573: 570: 545: 542: 537: 513: 508: 504: 492:MaxwellReyes.com 467: 334: 290: 274:Conditional Keep 241: 188: 187: 173: 121: 103: 62: 56: 34: 654: 653: 649: 648: 647: 645: 644: 643: 642: 636:deletion review 629: 618: 613: 606: 604: 571: 568: 565: 562:No Future Films 540: 535: 532: 506: 465: 280: 239: 130: 94: 78: 75: 64: 60: 50: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 652: 650: 641: 640: 624: 623: 610: 607:coccyx bloccyx 598: 580: 579: 550: 549: 521: 520: 496:ComicBookMovie 476: 475: 460:WP:CRYSTALBALL 452: 451: 433: 432: 431: 430: 429: 428: 427: 426: 349: 348: 324: 323: 322: 321: 285:comment added 270: 269: 268: 267: 266: 265: 191: 190: 127: 74: 69: 58: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 651: 639: 637: 632: 626: 625: 622: 617: 616: 609: 602: 599: 597: 593: 589: 585: 582: 581: 578: 574: 563: 559: 555: 552: 551: 548: 544: 543: 538: 530: 526: 523: 522: 519: 516: 511: 509: 501: 497: 493: 489: 485: 481: 478: 477: 474: 471: 469: 468: 466:Benny Digital 461: 457: 454: 453: 450: 446: 442: 438: 435: 434: 425: 421: 417: 413: 409: 405: 401: 400: 399: 395: 391: 386: 385: 384: 380: 376: 372: 368: 367: 366: 362: 358: 354: 351: 350: 346: 342: 338: 331: 326: 325: 320: 316: 312: 308: 304: 300: 296: 292: 291: 288: 284: 279: 275: 272: 271: 264: 260: 256: 252: 251: 250: 247: 246: 243: 242: 235: 232: 231: 230: 226: 222: 218: 214: 211: 210: 209: 208: 204: 200: 195: 186: 182: 179: 176: 172: 168: 164: 161: 158: 155: 152: 149: 146: 143: 140: 136: 133: 132:Find sources: 128: 125: 119: 115: 111: 107: 102: 98: 93: 89: 85: 81: 77: 76: 73: 70: 68: 67: 63: 57: 55: 54: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 630: 627: 611: 600: 583: 553: 533: 524: 514:(Contact me) 505: 479: 463: 455: 436: 407: 403: 352: 306: 303:crystal ball 298: 294: 273: 244: 237: 212: 193: 192: 180: 174: 166: 159: 153: 147: 141: 131: 52: 51: 45: 43: 31: 28: 281:—Preceding 157:free images 529:red links 488:Indiegogo 441:SuperLean 337:• Gene93k 255:Dru of Id 221:Dru of Id 53:Wizardman 614:(toccyx) 507:BIGNOLE 390:Supesfan 357:Supesfan 240:Schmidt, 124:View log 572:Writer 531:here. — 500:WP:NOTE 295:assumes 283:undated 213:Comment 163:WP refs 151:scholar 97:protect 92:history 601:Delete 584:Delete 569:Cactus 554:Delete 525:Delete 480:Delete 456:Delete 416:J Greb 412:WP:COI 388:Thanks 375:J Greb 311:J Greb 278:Crtrue 199:J Greb 194:Delete 135:Google 101:delete 46:delete 541:Allen 178:JSTOR 139:books 118:views 110:watch 106:links 16:< 592:talk 588:Whpq 536:Mike 445:talk 437:Keep 420:talk 394:talk 379:talk 361:talk 353:Keep 341:talk 315:talk 259:talk 225:talk 203:talk 171:FENS 145:news 114:logs 88:talk 84:edit 408:are 404:and 335:-- 299:And 185:TWL 122:– ( 594:) 566:— 447:) 422:) 396:) 381:) 363:) 343:) 332:. 317:) 307:if 261:) 227:) 205:) 165:) 116:| 112:| 108:| 104:| 99:| 95:| 90:| 86:| 48:. 590:( 443:( 418:( 392:( 377:( 359:( 339:( 313:( 289:. 257:( 223:( 201:( 189:) 181:· 175:· 167:· 160:· 154:· 148:· 142:· 137:( 129:( 126:) 120:) 82:(

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