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57:: Three times, Google results were used as evidence, but nobody found any (independent) source in them that would meet even the first criterion "Significant coverage". The article itself does not contain any such source, either. What gave me pause was that the article does say "it is the largest online directory in the world for surplus capital equipment", but that is referenced to 359: 514: 191: 98: 73:
Correction: I overlooked one source, a reference to the Chicago Sun-Times story about the company that said "The Surplus Record is known as the bible of the used and surplus capital equipment industry." Since ChildofMidnight
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Look again, please. The hits for "Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory" stop after about page 2, and most of those are obituaries for Scanlan. I don't see the "significant coverage" required by
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The Surplus Record is known as the bible of the used and surplus capital equipment industry. Its 832-page November issue..." ref: SANDRA GUY Date: November 16, 2000 Publication: Chicago Sun-Times Page:
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The very first article (and there are many listed) on Google News is very substantial coverage entirely about this subject (1280 words). It says:
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that notable, there'd be far more available about an 80-odd year-old company. There isn't, and that leads me to believe we should delete. -
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The visits started in May 1999, one month after Scanlan's Chicago-based company, the Surplus Record, started its own online auction.
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Care to point out more specific instances of significant coverage? I see only passing mentions, advertisements and the like. -
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I said it "looks notable enough" to keep. I merely meant that your comment was arbitrary and incites predilection. --
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fairly weak treatment is as close as I can find to coverage at any depth beyond trivial, but if the directory were
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The company has a very long history, and both it and its founder are notable. This article covers both.
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The subject of this article is very notable and there's plenty of coverage. It's not a close call.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Articles for deletion/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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We can say to each other "it's notable!" or "it's not notable!"
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I reserve the right to direct gentle mockery at the edits of
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the wish for it to be userfied, I will do that instead. —
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