462:. The original Symbian OS website was www.symbian.com while Symbian Platform uses www.symbian.org. As I stated on my previous comment Symbian OS does no longer exists. All its code has been transferred to Symbian Foundation and became an open-source system. This marks a significant change in so many aspects that, in my opinion, clearly differentiate the product and make it worthy of a different article.
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I definitely agree with the prior editors that we should have one, unified, big article that deals with the concept of the
Symbian operating system, and delivers for the readers that seek information about the history and technical aspects of this world's most used mobile phone operating system. We
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Highly notable platform, from the world's largest smartphone producer. I'm somewhat confused by this AfD, in that the nominator and most of the so-called "delete" votes are actually arguing for a merge, and not a delete. Surely a merge is something that can be discussed on the talk page. Is anyone
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The word "platform" is being focused on at the expense of the conceptual change. It appears that the change in name from OS to
Platform was designed to clearly indicate that the nature of the project has changed. Since there are a limited selection of synonyms for "operating system", the use of a
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I think the best thing would be to have
Symbian page have a normal "disambiguation" page, one for the original "Symbian_OS and it's history, and then a second one for the "Symbian_platform" which is the Open/Crowd Sourced version of the Software maintained by the Foundation. It is part of the
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I agree that this is a major change. Symbian OS was a proprietary, commercial product while
Symbian Platform is a community product. The transition from closed source to FSF approved open source is probably the most significant change that a mature software project can
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should deal with all the incarnations of the system in one article, as the operating system forms one continuous technical entity spanning over three decades from the mid-1990s' Psion devices to the modern-day
Symbian^Ns. There are also a good reasons why the whole
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Windows. The same pattern is appropriate for an OS that is more widely deployed than Windows.
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Symbian itself is notable. Nobody denies that. But it's notable as an operating system, so being notable as an operating system does not mean it should be called a platform.--
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which is a significant piece of software, but is already documented elsewhere. I believe the kernel has not been re-written and backwards compatibility is still possible afaik.
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page are distracting from understanding anything in that page. Err, ok that is exactly what you said. I think that is a good plan of action.
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