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303:? Are they talking about the same thing when they use the same phrase (which seems necessary if we are to say that they are working on the same thing)? And why isn't their thought best described in the articles on them? The article as written is not about a theme in anyone's thought, however, but rather asserts the existence of something called "political society" about whose essence we can have a discussion. The last time this article was created, it served as a 414:
Thanks for letting us know. This is useful information, and I am agreeing with you that the current material needs to go. I am not convinced, however, that we shouldn't have a page on this. I see that John Locke uses the phrase synomymously with "civil society", but what about the other source I
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also uses the phrase "political society," but synonymously with civil society, society, and civil government, and in opposition to the state of nature; his usage is captured by the other articles. The questions for me seem to be, In whose thought is this a central enough term to warrant an
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Recreation of a deleted page on a non-notable term. This page was recreated with substantially the same claims made in the previous iterations, viz. that political society is a notable term of art used by Alexis de Tocqueville that is not already covered by the article on
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problem is that it is in use by many scholars and they ascribe to it an importance and a specific meaning. it is completely different from this old outdated chap Locke, but very similar to modern thought of Tocqueville and Marx. shouldn't it be complemented rather?
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Aren't the citations included a third-party coverage that exclude also possibility of original research? It is also not true that Tocqueville did not describe the term - his direct de~finition of it is present in the reference to Schleifer.
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independent article rather than a dictionary entry? and Why is that idea not better addressed in the articles on those people? Concerning the Marx link, the hosting site for that reference does not include "political society" in its
86: 81: 258:. I'm sorry if my nomination was brief; I probably assumed too much of the past discussions. The phrase "political society" occurs often—the question is whether it is a special term not already covered by 364:
Another newly created account contributing to the discussion. This one's already been banned (username violation), so I'm not going to submit it for checkuser unless this AfD ends in keep.
391: 315:); the latest version bears these same hallmarks, down to the references to Tocqueville. This article has been deleted twice already with no new arguments offered for its recreation. 76: 557: 147: 274:, but Tocqueville does not describe it or suggest that it is a special term; it does not appear in the subject index of Mansfield and Winthrop's translation of 435:. That one seems like a synonym for politics: "the place where public demands get tackled by specific political institutions." 352: 299:
use "political society" in a technical sense, but who has responded to their work in such a way as to satisfy the third-party coverage requirement of
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The user that recreated this page has since been identified as a sockpuppet of the now-banned user who created this page twice in the past; see
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but already banned. The only comments friendly to the article's retention are by Cazort, who has not affirmed an opinion of keep.
627: 556:). Because a now-banned user re-created this page and has already engaged in this discussion with sockpuppets, I have 36: 553: 348: 470: 344: 416: 222: 208: 185: 159:. It is not, and the contention that it is seems to rely upon a mistranslation from French to Polish to English. 584: 569: 490: 444: 403: 373: 324: 168: 626:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Except the fact that political society is a place, sphere, part of social world while
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a process that may not occur in political society. It is a term of wider meaning.
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What do you have to say about this source? Here's another interesting source:
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http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/t/tocqueville/alexis/democracy/book1.html#book1.6
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http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/t/tocqueville/alexis/democracy/book4.html
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http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/ch05.htm
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Wer34 is a new user with few edits outside of this discussion (
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as a non-specific phrase or, optionally, move to wiktionary.
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142: 131: 127: 123: 287:, nor does the phrase appear at all in the article on 241:but I am uncertain and want more discussion first. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 630:). No further edits should be made to this page. 603:, Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary. Per DGG. 575:15:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC) — Update: confirmed. 182:are you providing others with true facts rjc? 8: 418:. That seems to be a more specific use? 221:The first hit in google is interesting: 473:, who is probably also a suckpuppet of 77:Articles for deletion/Political society 74: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 72: 24: 1: 647: 465:This comment was made by 623:Please do not modify it. 613:08:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC) 60:10:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 591:20:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 543:11:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 526:22:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 497:15:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC) 451:22:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 428:13:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 410:09:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 380:20:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 357:16:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 331:01:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 251:00:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC) 237:I am leaning towards a 213:23:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC) 175:22:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC) 311:by a now-banned user ( 71:AfDs for this article: 558:requested a checkuser 471:Americanazifrommunich 345:Americanazifrommunich 276:Democracy in America 272:Democracy in America 469:, a sockpuppet of 467:Americanazinmunich 44:The result was 593: 382: 360: 343:comment added by 309:original research 293:Partha Chatterjee 232:Political society 98:Political society 66:Political society 638: 625: 587: 580: 572: 565: 551: 493: 486: 447: 440: 406: 399: 376: 369: 363: 359: 337: 327: 320: 285:Marxist glossary 227:. Or this one: 171: 164: 145: 139: 121: 56: 53: 34: 646: 645: 641: 640: 639: 637: 636: 635: 634: 628:deletion review 621: 589: 585: 578: 574: 570: 563: 495: 491: 484: 449: 445: 438: 408: 404: 397: 388:Additional Note 378: 374: 367: 338: 329: 325: 318: 268:state of nature 173: 169: 162: 141: 112: 96: 93: 91: 69: 54: 51: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 644: 642: 633: 632: 616: 615: 597: 596: 595: 594: 583: 568: 546: 545: 529: 528: 508: 507: 506: 505: 504: 503: 502: 501: 500: 499: 489: 453: 443: 402: 385: 384: 383: 372: 333: 323: 179: 167: 152: 151: 92: 90: 89: 84: 79: 73: 70: 68: 63: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 643: 631: 629: 624: 618: 617: 614: 610: 606: 602: 599: 598: 592: 588: 582: 581: 573: 567: 566: 559: 555: 554:contributions 550: 549: 548: 547: 544: 540: 536: 531: 530: 527: 523: 519: 518: 513: 510: 509: 498: 494: 488: 487: 480: 476: 472: 468: 464: 461: 460: 458: 454: 452: 448: 442: 441: 434: 431: 430: 429: 425: 421: 417: 413: 412: 411: 407: 401: 400: 393: 389: 386: 381: 377: 371: 370: 362: 361: 358: 354: 350: 346: 342: 334: 332: 328: 322: 321: 314: 310: 306: 302: 298: 294: 290: 286: 281: 277: 273: 269: 265: 261: 257: 254: 253: 252: 248: 244: 240: 236: 233: 229: 226: 223: 220: 217: 216: 215: 214: 210: 206: 201: 200: 196: 193: 192: 188: 187: 183: 180: 177: 176: 172: 166: 165: 158: 149: 144: 137: 133: 129: 125: 120: 116: 111: 107: 103: 99: 95: 94: 88: 85: 83: 80: 78: 75: 67: 64: 62: 61: 58: 57: 55:Postlethwaite 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 622: 619: 600: 576: 561: 515: 511: 482: 462: 436: 432: 395: 387: 365: 316: 275: 271: 255: 238: 231: 218: 202: 197: 194: 189: 184: 181: 178: 160: 153: 49: 45: 43: 31: 28: 475:Discourseur 339:—Preceding 313:Discourseur 297:Doug Bandow 195:and search 463:Sockpuppet 457:politicsis 301:notability 280:John Locke 289:Karl Marx 266:, or the 586:Contribs 571:Contribs 492:Contribs 446:Contribs 405:Contribs 375:Contribs 353:contribs 341:unsigned 326:Contribs 260:politics 170:Contribs 157:Politics 148:View log 305:POVFORK 264:society 219:Comment 115:protect 110:history 605:Stifle 601:Delete 512:Delete 420:Cazort 415:gave: 243:Cazort 143:delete 119:delete 46:delete 535:Wer34 479:Wer34 433:Reply 256:Reply 146:) – ( 136:views 128:watch 124:links 16:< 609:talk 539:talk 522:talk 424:talk 349:talk 307:for 295:and 247:talk 239:Keep 209:talk 205:Żęść 132:logs 106:talk 102:edit 52:Ryan 579:RJC 564:RJC 517:DGG 485:RJC 439:RJC 398:RJC 394:. 368:RJC 319:RJC 163:RJC 611:) 560:. 541:) 533:-- 524:) 426:) 355:) 351:• 262:, 249:) 234:: 211:) 203:-- 134:| 130:| 126:| 122:| 117:| 113:| 108:| 104:| 48:. 607:( 537:( 520:( 477:/ 422:( 347:( 245:( 207:( 150:) 140:( 138:) 100:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Ryan Postlethwaite
10:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Political society
Articles for deletion/Political society
Articles for deletion/Political society (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Political society (3rd nomination)
Political society
edit
talk
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View log
Politics
RJC
Contribs
22:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/t/tocqueville/alexis/democracy/book1.html#book1.6
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/t/tocqueville/alexis/democracy/book4.html
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/ch05.htm
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talk
23:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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