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I'm not finding a verbatim source for the text here, so I can't document a copyright violation. NuclearWarfare, do you have a link? I'm going to attempt a cleanup, but don't want to go too far if the entire thing will be deleted anyway. It sounds like the subject might be notable, but it's a bit
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The discussion at Deletion Review has been leaning toward keeping t he speedy-deleted article, but edited as necessary. I think that the significance goes beyond just the company to immigration policy generally, and selective enforcement of it in particular, and a spearate article will be
487:, and on the premise that the existing article duplicated a copyrighted source (which seems to be at least partially the case, per above), I put together a stubbed version of this article, which could be expanded - but I see that there is already good coverage at 261:
Coren: Would you care to elaborate on why this is an attack? I may just be missing the obvious at the moment, but this looks like the straight reporting of events. Could not this be solved by renaming the article and other editorial adjustments?
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Just as an update, I've done a comparison of the article with that source and found minor infringement in an evident good-faith effort to write in own words. I've got to run--dentist--but wanted to share the outcome of comparing
566:, it is not only the largest raid in Iowa, but "the largest raid of its kind in the nation's history." It's notable well beyond the boundaries of the company involved; it's sourced; it's neutral. Keep, I think. -- 506:
Right. The revisions make it look a lot better (good work Ultra). But I'm still questioning whether this should exist on its own. I'll be happy to change to keep in the event its a notable fork.
491:. That has the added bonus of not being a single-event article. So, if a separate article is in order, it should probably be at this title - but if not, that article would be the better choice. 248:; it's still a poorly sourced hatchet job. Maybe an article can be made out of the event, but this is not it. Note that an attack page needs not have a BLP as subject to be an attack page. — 528:
is mostly criticism of the subject - well-sourced, and possibly well-deserved criticism - but, meh. Adding a lot of information about this raid might bump up against giving that criticism
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line by line. I have so far substantiated some duplication, but only two sentences. I'll see what else I can find. Meanwhile, the article that this copies is at DRV,
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appropriate. Otherwise the purely political aspects will overbalance the main article and make it even harder to get NPOV there..
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My G12 speedy delete was declined, but I still believe this is a blatant copyright infringement. So, I'll hand it off to you guys.
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That one would have been okay, as it was a government release and was sourced. But it's good without it, too. :) Well done! --
227:. But the reason it was deleted, actually does not reflect what is written. This isn't an attack, nor is it a BLP concern. 605: 36: 532:, even though I'm not finding a lot of positive material about that company. On that basis, a fork might be in order. 364: 320: 378:
Much appreciated - concur that everything appears to be good faith, and there is some good stuff in there. Thanks,
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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as well and also looks like a valid "see also" for other articles. According to one of the
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Side note - nominator came around to the position of keep after the article was cleaned up
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Withdrawing nomination now that it has been cleaned up. Anyone want to perform a close?
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It looks like the long bit in the middle discussing case dispositions came from
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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One possible source now linked in my comment, below yours. --
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Postville Iowa Raid (Agriprocessors Kosher Meat Plant)
202:, verbatim recreation of previously speed-deleted 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 608:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 558:, but it seems to have had a huge impact on 50:Disclaimer: Closer had suggested deletion. 48:; article cleaned up really nicely. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 206:. Cached version of deleted page 24: 1: 288:unclear - thus, the cleanup. 591:18:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 571:16:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 543:13:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 520:13:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 502:13:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 472:13:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 435:16:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 426:14:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 407:13:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 389:13:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 372:13:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 354:13:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 332:13:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 310:13:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 299:12:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 276:12:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 253:12:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 241:06:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 220:06:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 194:16:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 174:06:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 81:00:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC) 57:23:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC) 625: 393:(ec) Ditto. Most helpful. 319:I am comparing this with 601:Please do not modify it. 415:, an ICE press release. 340:Thank you for the link. 32:Please do not modify it. 524:Yeah, now I'm torn... 365:those two, at least 44:The result was 541: 500: 424: 387: 297: 51: 616: 603: 537: 517: 511: 496: 469: 463: 420: 404: 398: 383: 351: 345: 293: 273: 267: 238: 232: 180: 161: 147: 141: 123: 67: 49: 34: 624: 623: 619: 618: 617: 615: 614: 613: 612: 606:deletion review 599: 560:Postville, Iowa 515: 509: 467: 461: 402: 396: 349: 343: 271: 265: 236: 230: 191: 178: 172: 159: 143: 114: 98: 95: 83: 78: 65: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 622: 620: 611: 610: 594: 593: 573: 568:Moonriddengirl 564:linked sources 556:Agriprocessors 549: 548: 547: 546: 545: 526:Agriprocessors 489:Agriprocessors 481:Agriprocessors 474: 456:Agriprocessors 448: 447: 446: 445: 444: 443: 442: 441: 440: 439: 438: 437: 432:Moonriddengirl 375: 374: 369:Moonriddengirl 357: 356: 335: 334: 329:Moonriddengirl 313: 312: 307:Moonriddengirl 302: 301: 281: 280: 279: 278: 256: 255: 243: 222: 189: 179:NuclearWarfare 170: 160:NuclearWarfare 154: 153: 100:Postville Raid 94: 92:Postville Raid 89: 87: 85: 84: 76: 66:NuclearWarfare 62: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 621: 609: 607: 602: 596: 595: 592: 588: 584: 583: 577: 574: 572: 569: 565: 561: 557: 553: 550: 544: 540: 535: 531: 527: 523: 522: 521: 518: 513: 512: 505: 504: 503: 499: 494: 490: 486: 482: 478: 475: 473: 470: 465: 464: 457: 453: 450: 449: 436: 433: 429: 428: 427: 423: 418: 414: 410: 409: 408: 405: 400: 399: 392: 391: 390: 386: 381: 377: 376: 373: 370: 366: 361: 360: 359: 358: 355: 352: 347: 346: 339: 338: 337: 336: 333: 330: 326: 322: 318: 315: 314: 311: 308: 304: 303: 300: 296: 291: 286: 283: 282: 277: 274: 269: 268: 260: 259: 258: 257: 254: 251: 247: 244: 242: 239: 234: 233: 226: 223: 221: 217: 213: 209: 205: 201: 198: 197: 196: 195: 192: 187: 186: 185: 181: 175: 173: 168: 167: 166: 162: 151: 146: 139: 135: 131: 127: 122: 118: 113: 109: 105: 101: 97: 96: 93: 90: 88: 82: 79: 74: 73: 72: 68: 61: 60: 59: 58: 55: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 600: 597: 580: 575: 551: 534:UltraExactZZ 530:undue weight 507: 493:UltraExactZZ 476: 459: 451: 417:UltraExactZZ 394: 380:UltraExactZZ 341: 316: 290:UltraExactZZ 284: 263: 245: 228: 224: 199: 183: 182: 164: 163: 156: 155: 86: 70: 69: 45: 43: 31: 28: 321:the source 212:Mr. Vernon 539:Evidence 498:Evidence 477:Redirect 452:Redirect 422:Evidence 385:Evidence 295:Evidence 150:View log 485:WP:BOLD 317:Comment 285:Comment 225:Comment 190:My work 171:My work 117:protect 112:history 77:My work 483:. Per 246:Speedy 200:Delete 145:delete 121:delete 250:Coren 148:) – ( 138:views 130:watch 126:links 54:Coren 16:< 587:talk 576:Keep 552:Keep 516:ergy 468:ergy 413:here 403:ergy 367:. -- 350:ergy 327:. -- 325:here 272:ergy 237:ergy 216:talk 210:. -- 208:here 134:logs 108:talk 104:edit 46:Keep 582:DGG 510:Syn 479:to 462:Syn 454:to 397:Syn 344:Syn 266:Syn 231:Syn 589:) 218:) 136:| 132:| 128:| 124:| 119:| 115:| 110:| 106:| 52:— 585:( 536:~ 495:~ 419:~ 382:~ 292:~ 214:( 152:) 142:( 140:) 102:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Coren
23:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
NuclearWarfare

My work
00:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Postville Raid
Postville Raid
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
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View log
NuclearWarfare

My work
NuclearWarfare

My work
16:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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