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405: 231:"In 2001 Catcha launched a publishing arm which has since become one of the largest Magazine publishers in South East Asia. The company is primarily based in Malaysia but also publishes in Singapore and Indonesia. Their portfolio of titles include JUICE, Stuff, K-Zone, Evo, MiNT, Fairways, Clive and Prestige." 238:
using Google to estimate the size of the haystack... Still, "Bigger Haystack = More Needles" and this particular haystack is the size of Mason City, Iowa. My preference would be for one about the company but that's not what we have here. Nevertheless, KEEP + TAG + IMPROVE is pretty clear in this instance.
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Like I say, I would have done it about the company and then brought the mogul's bio into it in through that; someone took the other approach, talking about a very clearly notable company through the bio of its founder. No matter, there are sources aplenty however one slices it. I basically agree with
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should be the article and this bio and story should be subsumed in that. HOWEVER, when the specific phrase "Catcha Media" returns 32.3 MILLION hits on Google, I absolutely guarantee that there is an article topic here that can pass GNG muster. Yes, I know that there are many who scream and wail about
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An entrepeneur who's been involved with some sucessful businesses. However I can't see anything in the article which justies having a Knowledge (XXG) page about this individual rather than including the key information in pages about the organizations he's worked with.
457:- I agree that there should probably be a Knowledge (XXG) page on Catcha Media. But nothing Carrite has said justifies there being a Knowledge (XXG) page on Patrick Grove. From what I can see, notability here is for the organization rather than the individual. 531:
So it appears he has founded and now taken for an IPO, 2 companies. So it would not seem ideal to list the individual under a company profile as there are quite a few companies of merit. I think it should stay and be updated with more information.
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The article which 175.136.155.3 has given a link to is about Catcha Media, the same organization we've been discussing above. So I don't know which other organization 175.136.155.3 is referring to.
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your argument; if one were inspired to write a piece on the company and merge this into it, that would be very logical. Failing that, this is a clear keep.
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Bearing in mind that this is a big new media conglomerate and that some of these may be technically self-sources rather than independent sources, here's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/5/business/9030605&sec=business
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it also appears the individual has successfully launched another company for an IPO.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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on Grove and Catcha Media being selected to run MSN's portal in Malaysia.
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with a bio that indicates Grove's Catcha Media publishes 18 magazines.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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confirming their close relationship with Grove and Catcha.
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