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sound approach, could produce porn, traded up today around the world as a classic. Finally came the gentry usually from the film industry and brought with them for this reason some decades of experience. Already in the first years were not only short films, known as loops, produced, but also porn feature film length. It was set free the imagination, concerning the content and also the title of the film. Just the title of old movies were like to cast off and used in many short films. But there were already existing stories and movies where one content served. It was to the fabric around the figure of the "Sanitätsgefreiten"Neumann, on the other hand, it was the figure of the literary classics of porn "Josefine Mutzenbacher" which was already some years before, just like the "Sanitätsgefreite Neumann" in a sex film release in theaters. This substance, which tells of a Viennese whore, and which caused much sensation and censorship in book form, has offered wonderful to, to be filmed as a pornographic Variant.
628:; the two porn databases used as references do not satisfy RS requirements; the book/magazine citations support statements regarding the film, not the performer. And the just-advanced argument that associating an identifiable living person with a porn performer, without a shred of supporting evidence, isn't a BLP violation because "it isn't necessarily a negative thing to everyone" demonstrates only the proponent's utter lack of understanding of essential BLP policy. 624:: This argument, advanced earlier, waters down the PORNBIO #2 standard far too much. No sources describe the film in terms that approach "iconic," "groundbreaking," or "blockbuster." The sources cited by Morbidthoughts don't go much beyond establishing the film as notable under the GNG. "Considered by a number of reviewers as one of the best," for example, hardly equates to "iconic." We cannot ignore the fact that this article 607:), which was apparently "one of the most successful foreign (European) x-rated films". I also note that the above BLP concern was not acted upon further by anyone. Being associated with adult films isn't necessarily a negative thing to everyone, and I'm not even sure that this actress used her real name in any of her adult film career. This article does need more citations though. 718:
Barely repealed the ban on pornography for adults in the Federal Republic of Germany in 1975, hiked many filmmakers in the new genre of porn film about and did pioneering work in there. The quality of the films was at that time still quite high, and thanks to the existing budget and a technically
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as a fundamentally unsourced BLP, without prejudice to recreation as a redirect if a film article is written or as an article if reliably sourced biographical information can be found. This article perpetuates the unsourced and unreferenced association of the porn performer with a clearly
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The first "Josefine Mutzenbacher"-the experienced Director Hans Billian turned porn film, which today is seen as one of the best porn of all time, in 1976. Starring at that time embodied the Wienerin Patricia Rhomberg, which perfectly fit into this role because their proper
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None of the articles in any language cite reliable sources. I tagged the article as unsourced because there is nothing to support the article's biographical content. Links to film databases don't establish notability. Yes, I've heard of
642:"No sources describe the film in terms that approach 'iconic,' 'groundbreaking,' or 'blockbuster'"...only that the film was "one of the most successful foreign (European) x-rated films", which is basically the same, exact thing. 166: 431: 424: 393: 599:- After thinking about it some more, it appears that this (former?) actress satisfies the "starred in an iconic, groundbreaking or blockbuster feature" of PORNBIO for her lead role in "porn classic" 304:
Unfortunately the 4 links to external DBs do not establish notability. None of the other articles have any other sources. Can you provide references to support your claim that "the
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This article has 4 links to external DBs and exists in 3 other languages. Why should the English-speaking world not know about this person? Considering
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Quite definitely not the identifiable living person I referred a bit vaguely to; note the content I removed from the article.
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is not clearly identifiable, likely fictional, and if it was based on a real person, that person is likely dead.
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identifiable person of the same name, and suppression is needed before that claim is spread across the web!
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Has made unique contributions to a specific pornographic genre, such as beginning a trend in pornography;
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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regards it "one of the most successful x-rated foreign films ever to cross the Atlantic".
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as not won a "well-known and significant industry award" or any award at all.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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has no reliable sources for its biographical content
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